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teedubya 09-24-2008 08:50 AM

KC Took over 4th place from Detroit Tigers
 
One more win ensures NOT having a 90 loss season.

This month has been incredible for the Royales with Cheese. They are 15-7 so far with 4 games left.

Very impressive ending to the season, and one that will be encouraging for the organization moving forward!

Yay! Royals.

Gonzo 09-24-2008 08:55 AM

:shrug:

How would you like to be a Tigers fan right about now? Preseason favorites to win the division.

triple 09-24-2008 09:01 AM

if only they hadn't lost 10 or 12 games in a row earlier this year

teedubya 09-24-2008 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triple (Post 5049030)
if only they hadn't lost 10 or 12 games in a row earlier this year

I like the direction that Hillman has the team going in. It will take a couple years to get the losing mentality out of the franchise's collective psyche.

When the stadium gets renovated completely, it will be a LOT easier to lure free agents here.

The future for the Royals looks better than the future of the Chiefs. As sad as that may seem.

chasedude 09-24-2008 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5049045)
The future for the Royals looks better than the future of the Chiefs. As sad as that may seem.

KC Pro Sports really are about the worst in the country, IMO

Mr. Laz 09-24-2008 09:47 AM

good for them :clap:


too bad they only win after the games because meaningless

beavis 09-24-2008 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5049189)
good for them :clap:


too bad they only win after the games because meaningless

Yeah, and we've beat up on some really bad teams this month.

Mr. Laz 09-24-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavis (Post 5049191)
Yeah, and we've beat up on some really bad teams this month.

true ... but we played many of those same bad teams earlier and didn't beat up on them.

maybe the other teams have given up so it's easier ... dunno.

just seems like every year we play our best ball after the season is all but over.

gblowfish 09-24-2008 09:53 AM

Yip-ee.

ChiTown 09-24-2008 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavis (Post 5049191)
Yeah, and we've beat up on some really bad teams this month.

Cleaned up on Oakland/Cleveland/Seattle/Detroit and had our ears boxed by Minny and CWS. That said, at least we're still playing like we have a heartbeat. I think the remaining goal for the team is to see if they can avoid a minimum of 90 losses for the 1st time in 5 years. A major coup if they can do it, and it can be gar. if they win tonight.

Simply Red 09-24-2008 10:07 AM

Actually watched the game over my bil's house. They looked good yesterday. Hell, the Braves one too!

Brianfo 09-24-2008 10:34 AM

With 72 wins, I won a grand betting the over/under. Not too shabby.

Demonpenz 09-24-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 5049224)
Cleaned up on Oakland/Cleveland/Seattle/Detroit and had our ears boxed by Minny and CWS. That said, at least we're still playing like we have a heartbeat. I think the remaining goal for the team is to see if they can avoid a minimum of 90 losses for the 1st time in 5 years. A major coup if they can do it, and it can be gar. if they win tonight.

cleveland did a nice turnaround too, they are over 500 with a cy young winner. Not really a disaster year. I am still alittle bitter beer face about gload and pena playing for as long as they did.

petegz28 09-24-2008 11:44 AM

couple bad losing streaks hurt us this season. but i will take the progress we made this year as we did make real progress.

SAUTO 09-24-2008 11:47 AM

this season has been a partial success, greinke has come on real well, meche pitched well, no 100 loss season, aviles has impressed...
on the other hand guillen has pretty much worn out his welcome with a couple of years left.....

luv 09-24-2008 11:53 AM

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=192399

A lot of people excited.

CoMoChief 09-24-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5049045)
I like the direction that Hillman has the team going in. It will take a couple years to get the losing mentality out of the franchise's collective psyche.

When the stadium gets renovated completely, it will be a LOT easier to lure free agents here.

The future for the Royals looks better than the future of the Chiefs. As sad as that may seem.

FA's aren't going to give a shit about the stadium renovations when this has been a team thats been currently losing for the last 15 seasons or so.

Just a thought....

Not only that but recently we have always played well in the last month of the season and usually it doesn't carry over to the spring because we usually are out of the race by late May early June.

eazyb81 09-24-2008 12:30 PM

I can't believe people are actually excited. All we're doing right now is hurting draft position.

Winning too many games in September a year or two back cost us David Price....

gblowfish 09-24-2008 12:31 PM

Boy could you imagine being a Detroit fan today? Your football GM goes down in flames, and your baseball team can't even beat the Royals. Man...

FringeNC 09-24-2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 5049758)
Boy could you imagine being a Detroit fan today? Your football GM goes down in flames, and your baseball team can't even beat the Royals. Man...

Are you kidding? There will be celebration on the streets following Millen's dismissal.

gblowfish 09-24-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5049786)
Are you kidding? There will be celebration on the streets following Millen's dismissal.

Yeah, but that's a perverse kind of happy. Kind of like the planet will be when King Carl finally goes down.

Sure-Oz 09-24-2008 12:51 PM

Shealy has been playing well too

Valiant 09-24-2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5049589)
this season has been a partial success, greinke has come on real well, meche pitched well, no 100 loss season, aviles has impressed...
on the other hand guillen has pretty much worn out his welcome with a couple of years left.....

I am fine with Guillen.. I think we get another great player to come here and Guillens number jump up even higher..

Hopefully we add one or two more quality talent(pay for them on offense) and try and go after another #1 pitcher..

1st.................Shealy, Ka'aihue
2nd.................Healthy Grudz, because I dont know if anyone is out there for an upgrade without trading..
SS..................Aviles
3rd.................Gordon
C...................Olivio
DH.................Butler, Shealy
LF..................Guillen, Adam Dunn
CF..................Baby Dejesus
RF...................Adam Dunn, Guillen



AJ Burnett if he opts out..
Oliver Perez
Sabitha

petegz28 09-24-2008 01:17 PM

Guillen is fine. I am glad we signed him. Maybe if we get some more sticks around him he can do even better. His attitude may be drama for KC but I can give a crap if he is giving me 20\100 every year.

Sure-Oz 09-24-2008 01:51 PM

Guillen will be a force if he gets protection, its also nice to see Gordon hitting again too

RockChalk 09-24-2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 5049802)
Yeah, but that's a perverse kind of happy. Kind of like the planet will be when King Carl finally goes down.

Do you think the servers will crash when this happens?

KCUnited 09-24-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 5049892)
I am fine with Guillen.. I think we get another great player to come here and Guillens number jump up even higher..

Hopefully we add one or two more quality talent(pay for them on offense) and try and go after another #1 pitcher..

1st.................Shealy, Ka'aihue
2nd.................Healthy Grudz, because I dont know if anyone is out there for an upgrade without trading..
SS..................Aviles
3rd.................Gordon
C...................Olivio
DH.................Butler, Shealy
LF..................Guillen, Adam Dunn
CF..................Baby Dejesus
RF...................Adam Dunn, Guillen



AJ Burnett if he opts out..
Oliver Perez
Sabitha

Callaspo has swung the bat well since he came back. I think he is a viable option at 2nd.

Simply Red 09-24-2008 02:19 PM

That pitcher you all had out there last night looked very good.

RockChalk 09-24-2008 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5049638)
Not only that but recently we have always played well in the last month of the season and usually it doesn't carry over to the spring because we usually are out of the race by late May early June.


That's a complete myth...People love to say that we play well when it doesn't matter, but the facts prove them wrong.

Since 1995, we have had 2 winning Septembers. We have not won more than 13 games in the month of September since the 2000 season.

These are the Royals September records going back to the 1995 season. Number in parenthesis is games played in October, which I've included in the "September" records

1995: 12-18 (1)
1996: 13-11
1997: 12-16
1998: 8-16
1999: 13-16 (2)
2000: 15-14 (1)
2001: 11-16 (6)
2002: 7-19
2003: 13-15
2004: 12-19 (3)
2005: 13-18 (2)
2006: 13-14 (1)
2007: 9-19

Our total September record from 1995-2007 is: 151-211 which gives a winning percentage of .420 If you were to equate this to a 162 game season, our record would be 68-94 If anything, the Royals play pretty below average in the final month of the season.

I took way too much time on this :shake:

*Records were compiled using www.baseball-almanac.com

teedubya 09-24-2008 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5050113)
That pitcher you all had out there last night looked very good.


Yeah, and we will probably end up trading him for two turds in a punchbowl.

beavis 09-24-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 5050089)
Callaspo has swung the bat well since he came back. I think he is a viable option at 2nd.

Everything I've read leads me to believe they are going after Furcal this offseason, which means Aviles moves to 2nd, where he should be.

KChiefs1 09-24-2008 06:17 PM

How embarassing for Detroit....don't they have the highest payroll this year after the Yankees of course?

Sure-Oz 09-24-2008 06:21 PM

Gordons stance looks a bit different, he seems to be wobbling as he's up there

RBI SINGLE by Alex, 4-0 in the 5th now

10 game hitting streak

petegz28 09-24-2008 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5050721)
Gordons stance looks a bit different, he seems to be wobbling as he's up there

RBI SINGLE by Alex, 4-0 in the 5th now

10 game hitting streak

Doesn't look like he is trying to turn on everything.

Sure-Oz 09-24-2008 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5050726)
Doesn't look like he is trying to turn on everything.

Agreed, as if he is staying back and not so "tight" up there...interesting looking though, it seriously looks like a wobble. Hopefully its the adjustment he needs.

5-0 now after a run walked in, bases loaded 2 out

Sure-Oz 09-24-2008 06:29 PM

Pena JR just walked a run in, lmfao tigers suck

Sure-Oz 09-24-2008 06:31 PM

LMFAO bases clearing triple by Maier 9-0 Royals, 6 runs scored with 2 outs

teedubya 09-24-2008 06:32 PM

nice triple by Maier!! 9-0 Royals!! hahaha

petegz28 09-24-2008 06:32 PM

Weren't the Tigers supposed to score 1000 runs this season?

SCTrojan 09-24-2008 06:33 PM

Let's hope Bannister just goes after people and doesn't try to be too fine on the corners.

petegz28 09-24-2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan (Post 5050765)
Let's hope Bannister just goes after people and doesn't try to be too fine on the corners.

Bannister reminds me too much of Lima anymore. And probably with a less hotter wife to boot! :)

sedated 09-24-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5049578)
couple bad losing streaks hurt us this season. but i will take the progress we made this year as we did make real progress.

sounds like herm’s press-conference 101. “We’ve made progress, but the big play has hurt us.”

petegz28 09-24-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 5050782)
sounds like herm’s press-conference 101. “We’ve made progress, but the big play has hurt us.”

Yes but I am not shoving shit in your face like Herm. If you don't think the Royals made some good strides in the right direction this year you're smoking good shit.

sedated 09-24-2008 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5050792)
If you don't think the Royals made some good strides in the right direction this year you're smoking good shit.

how many years have we said that?

DJ's left nut 09-24-2008 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavis (Post 5050375)
Everything I've read leads me to believe they are going after Furcal this offseason, which means Aviles moves to 2nd, where he should be.

It'll never happen...at least I think it won't.

The Cardinals are playing Cesar Izturis at SS and have no true leadoff man.

If they allow themselves to be outbid by the Royals for the best FA fit the team has seen in 10 years, they'll be crucified.

They'd damn well better be.

KCinNY 09-24-2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5049589)
on the other hand guillen has pretty much worn out his welcome with a couple of years left.....

I guess I'm in the minority but I like Guillen. Bad attitude or not, he's the only legitimate masher they have in the lineup. Probably the only guy that worries the opposing pitcher.

sedated 09-24-2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCinNY (Post 5050804)
I guess I'm in the minority but I like Guillen. Bad attitude or not, he's the only legitimate masher they have in the lineup. Probably the only guy that worries the opposing pitcher.

b-b-but...he has a...a...POTTY MOUTH!!!111!!!11oneoneeleven

triple 09-24-2008 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5050802)
It'll never happen...at least I think it won't.

The Cardinals are playing Cesar Izturis at SS and have no true leadoff man.

If they allow themselves to be outbid by the Royals for the best FA fit the team has seen in 10 years, they'll be crucified.

They'd damn well better be.

So?

If you made a list of the teams who could use a guy like Gil Meche, you'd be listing every team. The Royals went and got him when he was the best free agent pitcher on the market that year. They knew what they wanted, paid for it and got him.

Who is to say Furcal won't come here unless no one else is bidding?

DJ's left nut 09-24-2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triple (Post 5050815)
So?

If you made a list of the teams who could use a guy like Gil Meche, you'd be listing every team. The Royals went and got him when he was the best free agent pitcher on the market that year. They knew what they wanted, paid for it and got him.

Who is to say Furcal won't come here unless no one else is bidding?

I said 'outbid'. I never said he'd only come if nobody else bid.

The Cardinals have deeper pockets than the Royals and have pared about $45 million off their payroll, mostly in ineffective players.

The Royals can bid all they want, the Cardinals have the resources to outbid them and a brand new stadium built under the auspices that it would make us a player for big-time FAs. Like I said, nobody has fit the club better than Furcal in a looooong time. If this wasn't precisely the reason the new stadium was built, nothing is and the fans were lied to.

They absolutely cannot allow the Royals to outbid them. The fans should revolt if they do.

nychief 09-24-2008 06:55 PM

Wow Cardinal fan arrogance. I like our chances with Frucal. But am fine with Aviles and Callaspo.

sedated 09-24-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triple (Post 5050815)
If you made a list of the teams who could use a guy like Gil Meche, you'd be listing every team. The Royals went and got him when he was the best free agent pitcher on the market that year.

Ted Lilly

Sure-Oz 09-24-2008 07:10 PM

10-0 now after a infield rbi single by Gathright

DJ's left nut 09-24-2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 5050844)
Wow Cardinal fan arrogance. I like our chances with Frucal. But am fine with Aviles and Callaspo.

Explain the 'arrogance'.

Facts:

1) The Cardinals have a huge need at SS

2) The Cardinals have a huge need at leadoff

3) Furcal is an elite leadoff man and very good SS

4) The Cardinals will have more money to spend than the Royals, even if their payroll remains static due to freed up obligations to hurt or ineffective players

5) The Cardinals just convinced the city to give them a lot of money so they could "be players for impact free agents"

_____________________________________________

So, in light of these facts, how would it be even remotely acceptable for the Cardinals to be outbid by the Royals? If a team with a larger budget like the Yankees outbid them, I'd be less upset. But if the Pirates, Rays, Royals or anyone else that simply doesn't have as much coin to spend outbids them, I'll be furious. I think it's even less likely due to the fact that the Royals getting him, an instate rival, would inflame passions in STL even more.

Unless you can point to some intangible, which would be nothing more than speculation and/or arrogance on your part, the current set of operative facts certainly suggests that losing Furcal to the Royals would be unacceptable to the Cardinals.

Sure-Oz 09-24-2008 07:30 PM

Kila with a single off the wall, god that ball jumps off his bat

DeezNutz 09-24-2008 07:50 PM

Why has Pena been starting at SS the last two nights?

teedubya 09-24-2008 08:13 PM

73 wins!!!! We will avoid 90 losses! **** YEAH!

Thig Lyfe 09-24-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 5049892)
Sabathia

If only.

rtmike 09-24-2008 10:17 PM

Milton Bradley has 407 at bats w/ a .324 percentage http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...?playerId=4245, Aviles has the same at bats w/ a .323 percentage http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...playerId=29145. Yet Aviles isn't mentioned with the league leaders now or has been this year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/...l&seasonType=2

I know there's a minimum for at bats but he's the same as MB so why no love.

Hammock Parties 09-24-2008 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 5051402)
Milton Bradley has 407 at bats w/ a .324 percentage http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...?playerId=4245, Aviles has the same at bats w/ a .323 percentage http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...playerId=29145. Yet Aviles isn't mentioned with the league leaders now or has been this year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/...l&seasonType=2

I know there's a minimum for at bats but he's the same as MB so why no love.

the minimum is 3.1 plate appearances for every game your team has played. so at the end of the year it'd be 162 x 3.1 which comes to 502.2 ABs

kcxiv 09-24-2008 11:51 PM

KC also passed Detroit for worst football GM in the league now.

alanm 09-25-2008 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5050830)
I said 'outbid'. I never said he'd only come if nobody else bid.

The Cardinals have deeper pockets than the Royals and have pared about $45 million off their payroll, mostly in ineffective players.

The Royals can bid all they want, the Cardinals have the resources to outbid them and a brand new stadium built under the auspices that it would make us a player for big-time FAs. Like I said, nobody has fit the club better than Furcal in a looooong time. If this wasn't precisely the reason the new stadium was built, nothing is and the fans were lied to.

They absolutely cannot allow the Royals to outbid them. The fans should revolt if they do.

What.. and burn the stadium down?

PunkinDrublic 09-25-2008 11:16 AM

Well we play the twins next who will no doubt be at the top of their game trying to win the division. We could just as easily get knocked right back into last place.

ChiefsCountry 09-25-2008 11:17 AM

God forbid the Royals sign somebody and the Cardinals dont.

eazyb81 09-25-2008 12:38 PM

No matter what anyone says, this organization took a big step forward this year.

We hit the 70 win barrier
We avoided 90 losses
We FINALLY developed a stud ace pitcher in Greinke

With Greinke and Meche, we have a great 1-2 punch that is up there with most teams in the league. If Gordon and/or Butler take a step forward next year and become the hitter they have the ability to be, we truly have the chance to reach 500 or beyond next year.

We still lack depth in the rotation and have some question marks in the lineup, but KC fans should be pretty satisfied with the results of this season.

ChiTown 09-25-2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 5049015)
:shrug:

How would you like to be a Tigers fan right about now? Preseason favorites to win the division.

Not just the Division, but the faves for the whole enchilada.

Thig Lyfe 09-25-2008 03:22 PM

How insane would it be if David Glass doubled the payroll and we signed Sabathia?

Sure-Oz 09-25-2008 03:30 PM

I dont know about Sabathia, seems like he's an arm injury waiting to happen. Milwaukee pretty much pitched him 8 or 9 every game it seemed

triple 09-25-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 5050871)
Ted Lilly

He's a comparable player today. It's not a cinch that he's better than Meche or especially that he was two years ago.

Cubs and Blue Jays were both chasing Meche, Yankees were after Lilly to start with, he signed with the Cubs after the Yankees pulled out to re-sign Pettitte.

Meche is two years younger, too, and the Royals got a 5-year instead of 4 from him.

In an offseason where there were really only two pitchers available and the Yankees were pitching-poor (more than they realized, looking back) Lilly only got $8 million.

sedated 09-25-2008 03:55 PM

I'd rather have Sheets than Sabathia

eazyb81 09-25-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 5053122)
I'd rather have Sheets than Sabathia

Come back when you're sober.


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