Walter's Thursday Mock Draft Update
 

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

He has some changes this week for the Chiefs...

1st Round Okung OT Oklahoma State
2nd Round Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
2nd Round Kindle OLB Texas
3rd Round Stuckey SS Kansas

I don't want a lineman picked high in the 1st round. It never seems really to work out favorably. For us anyway.

* Clausen at #1?
* Not sure I'd want to pick OL that high
* I don't want the raiders to get Mallett

If we take Okung/Dwyer over Berry/Fox-Selvie Im not gonna support that for a second and will have serious doubts as to where this team is headed.

no

we need another RB, but not in the second...

Using Walter's player availability I would much rather go:

1st Berry, S Tenn
2nd Fox, OT Maimi
2nd Round Kindle OLB Texas (no change here)
3rd Round Either:
Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
or George Selvie, DE/OLB, South Florida
I would probably go with Gerhart, but I need to see him a little more.

I think this would be a much better draft.

They have some huge swings in player movement - Dan Williams going from 3rd round to mid 1st.

I'm still on the fence with Albert at LT. If he continues to suck, you can't really argue with Okung. Okung gets an undeserved bad rap on this board just because people don't want an OL taken with the first pick. Using this latest ranking, I'd draft:

1. Berry (choice B Okung).
2a. Norwood (choice B Hughes).
2b. Trent Williams
3. Tremendous value in the third round - Mike Johnson, Brandon Graham, Gilyard, Tennant, Micah Johnson.

I'd probably package up a 4th and 5th to get another 3rd if possible

i hope this bit on rush backers falling is true...

eh.

i can't believe this crop of QBs is going to go that high...but good for us if so

I'm not great at picking where guys will go in the draft, but I think Dwyer would be a steal in the second. That kid is special.

Walter having Mallet that high is laughable. The guy has a 10.5 minute long throwing motion. Frickin Byron Leftwich. He is realllll accurate on his deep throws though.

What do they see in Okung that says top ten? I just dont see it.

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could be, i watched him annihilate Georgia last year...

His feet.

That's part of the reason I like Norwood. He plays OLB and then on 3rd down passing situations they will rush him as a down or up lineman. He's already able to play the position.

Your just jealous, Tyler.

i'm on the norwood bandwagon...i'd take him with either second...

Dan Williams #16 I really hope he doesn't climb the board that high

If we use a 2nd pick for a RB this place is gonna go nuts.

Graham could go early second round.

I agree. He lived in the oppositions backfield all year. IIRC he has 20+ tackles for a loss.

ugh

I would like to applaud the Bears... thanks to them, Denver would have a top 10 pick. The pick Denver sent to SEA is at 24. Nice.

where's our new center, dammit!! :harumph:

This. Except I'd definitely go with Selvie in the 3rd and maybe go RB with the second 2nd rounder or later in the draft. Either way, if we can grab Berry, an OT & a DE/OLB with 3 of our top 4 picks, I'd be very happy.

Do they just think O'Dowd is going to stay for his senior year? I don't see him at all and there is no way he doesn't go in the top 3 rounds.

I will say this, there is plenty of good players to choose from in the 2nd on this mock.

I find it odd that have Mallet going to the Raiders and unless I've missed it, he's given no indication of leaving Arkansas.

Why do people like Selvie? He hasn't produced since his sophomore year.

He's had injury problems, I could see him sticking around to try to prove he can play a whole season.

After watching rudy sunday I would be willing to take the risk this year.

I could see him staying, but I'd still have him in my mock until he officially says he's staying.

If Jermaine Gresham falls to our second 2nd round pick, I think he would be hard to pass up. For one the Patriots liked to draft tight ends as much as 3-4 DL, second Cassel sucks at throwing more than 10 yards, third all-pro potential talent is there.

I agree with this. Don't think he will fall that far though.

Here would be my picks off that mock:

1. Eric Berry, S Tennessee
2. Von Miller, OLB Texas A&M
2. Jermaine Gresham, TE Oklahoma
3. Micah Johnson, LB Kentucky

i think its hilarious how much speculation the draft gets on CP. . . The draft has become way to big of a deal lately. it should be something that is looked at during the combine and before the draft not a year long discussion.

I also think having high draft picks is wayyyyy overrated, the truth is the teams looking for that high draft pick are going to rely way too much on that one person. which makes it an individual thing, and last time i checked football was a team sport.

which means the late 1st rounders who still have a lot of talent but got passed on by everyone else can produce better throughout their careers. Case in point guys like MJones-drew and c.johnson that use the fact that they were passed up as fuel for their fire.

i would much rather watch the chiefs draft last overall !!

not to mention, how will we ever know how to draft unless mel kiper jr. and todd mcshay and other so called "draft experts" tell us who is going to be the next best NFL player. since they have never been wrong before, lol

I have a tip for you. If you don't enjoy this sort of thing, don't click on the thread. Some of us do enjoy this sort of stuff... all year long. And yes, all of us want to pick later in the draft than earlier. Hitting home runs with these early picks helps us to get to those later draft picks.

I could see us taking another Oline pick in the second round.

Okay.... for decent teams the draft is a subject for a couple of months. But, for teams like the Chiefs.... it gives us something to look forward to.

As far as where we draft.... I think it is beneficial the closer to the top ten you can get.... but being in the top five is not good.

This. Not to mention it makes watching college football even better.

I think Gresham goes in the back end of the 1st, Arizona, Baltimore, Indy, someone like that.

Me too. And maybe even the 3rd as well. It may not go over well here, but it would damn sure help this team. Imagine what Charles could do if given the holes Priest Holmes had to run through. And imagine what that would do for our passing game.

Yep!

Which is why teams like Baltimore and Indy keep having stocked rosters each year.

im just saying everyone wants this guy or that guy, but the truth is the chiefs have 1 pick to make in the 1st round. 1 ! so this means almost everyone is going to be dissapointed when we take a tyson jackson type of guy. so i just dont see the reason to get all excited for nothing. they will draft who they want and all we can do is hope for the best.

This.... why the **** else would I sit through SEC football

I watched 10 Georgia games last year just to watch Matt Stafford. Tell me about it.

now this is what i dont get, watching a player just to get your hopes up then him getting drafted to someone else and then thinking damn, we shoulda got that guy. it happens every year

wow..thanks for the many profound thoughts....never heard any of that before..seriously, over the million posts on this board over a decade you're the first...i think we will all stop talking about the draft as a result of your insight into what is best for this board based on 148 posts...

What other hope is there, except to hope the team drafts players that you think will improve the team?

Umm so what? I also got to see AJ Green, Moreno and the rest of the freaking studs in SEC.

you are welcome, and sorry i dont post more. i will make sure i post more and only say things that please you. truth is the draft is for teams not worth a shit, and unless you have a good GM/ front office you will be drafting in the top 5 forever (like the lions)

So by all means talk about how and who you'd draft all you want, but to be honest there is probably something better you could be doing with your time. but maybe not in your case, you must be a talking trashcan, because your post stink

Actually the real fun of the draft is picking what players you like beforehand. That way overtime you see what people have a knack of doing it.

i mean really, when fans are hoping we loose all of our games so we get a better draft pick something is wrong. i never want to go that route. if i ever wanted the chiefs to loose for a better pick i would stop calling myself a fan

Who ****in cares?

Umm not really, the best teams still draft well.

Is there really a big difference in winning 3 games or 5 games?

But if one pick is the difference in Eric Berry or Russell Okung then I would have hope we only won the 3.

Yea anyone who buys what he said is dumb, the teams that are consistently good draft well, if you can't draft you'll never win.

true , true but i just think this years draft is make or break for the chiefs and there is a lot of talent out there for us to pick from. the way i see it we need to address two things high in the draft, our o-line and our secondary.

What the Chiefs need to address early in the draft is getting playmakers.

im saying teams who look forward to the draft all year long are for teams that suck.

i mean really how many colts/saints/ or vikings fans are thinking about who they will draft next year?

The guy is just a casual fan no more no less. A lot of us talk draft for a hobby, he is obviously not one of them.

Mecca what do you think about Toby Gerhart? He would make a nice counter punch to Jamaal Charles, and is a red zone beast.

There are plenty. Like I posted a lot of people do draft stuff as a hobby. There's a reason draft sites exist and Kiper and McShay are already talking about prospects throughout the season.

dont have to be consumed by the draft to be a fan, just aware of it. i mean really when was the last time the chiefs drafted someone that everyone agreed on?

Glenn Dorsey & Branden Albert.

Hey, guess what? This team sucks. Of course we're going to be talking about the draft earlier than the good teams are. It isn't rocket science, jethro.

mcshay and kiper can only hype up so many players during the season, they wait until the offseason to really start talking about prospects and measurables.

Every single team has draftnik fans, the draft is a really really fun day if you take the time to study it.

ok ok. . . so who do we take with our first three picks in the first two rounds to fix everything?

because when i saw the stat on the saftey Mays from usc, my jaw about hit the ground, what is he like 6'4 239lbs and runs a 4.3 forty? not to mention coming from a school like usc doesnt hurt. he's my got my vote

and isnt that who is in your avatar Mecca ? oh ya it is, i'd like to hear more about that guy, what do you know? could he drop into the 2nd round, is he overrated? whats up

Taylor Mays is a top 15 pick based on natural talent alone.

If you don't like the draft.....don't click on the thread. It's as simple as that.

if he tests well at the combine, and interviews well we should take him. didnt polumalu, rivers, maluluga, totupa, and ellis all come to the league and perform pretty well? usc always seems to have NFL talent that we need to be on top of.

I'd like us to hold off a year on getting a running back unless it's a freakin' steal. There's virtually no WR that I like this year, either.

Instead, I'd focus on OL and defense. I'd go Berry/Mays with our first pick, use a couple high picks on OL, and use our midrounders on some defensive depth. I like a lot of the midround passrushers we have this year. Hell I've suggested throwing two picks at OLB, and that might be the time to do it.

its not the draft that i dont like, its the hype of it. the fact that everyone wants a knight in shining armour to come to KC and fix everything, thats just simply not how it works. its a combination of the draft, free agency and the right coaches to develop the players to create a team that will compete against the top teams in the league.

oh and i will click on any damn link i want to buddy

He didn't even mention Cushing who's probably going to be the rookie of the year.