Which Positions are Most Important?
 

By "are Most Important," I mean, "lead to the most wins." To assess this, I figured out the strength of the correlation between any given team's "skill" (total PFF rating) at a position, and the regular season wins that team had. PFF ratings cover the last 4 years, so this is (4x32) 128 points of data.

Some results were surprising, some really weren't.

The correlation between QB rating and wins is amazing. In the past 4 years, there have been 19 QBs rated 22 or higher. None of them have had a losing season. There have been 6 QBs rated 31 or higher. None of them have won fewer than 12 games. There have been 13 QBs rated lower than -26.5. None of them had a winning season.

There was one other position that surprised me with how well it correlated with winning. The correlation was about 75% as strong as it was for QBs. Any guesses?

There was one specific subset of a position that actually had a negative correlation with wins. I don't think that increased skill at any position could actually cause a team to get worse, but of the top 5 guys at this position last year, only 1 was on a winning team. Also, arguably the best team last year had the worst play in the league at this particular position.

One explanation would be that it is a very highly regarded position and tends to be picked very early, so some of the best guys end up on the worst teams. However, there is more than one position that gets picked early to bad teams, and this correlation doesn't exist for any other position. I don't think that the effect of good play at this position is enough to overcome bad play elsewhere, unlike a position like QB. The question I am left asking is: if good (even excellent) play at this position isn't enough to cause your team as a whole to get better, why is this position picked so early?

Anyway, rank the importance of all the positions listed, and I'll post my findings later.

Here are the positions I analyzed, in alphabetical order:

C
CB
DL (4-3 DTs, 3-4 NTs, 3-4 DEs)
FB
G
HB
LB (4-3 ILBs and OLBs, 3-4 ILBs)
PR (4-3 DEs, 3-4 OLBs)
QB
S
T
TE
WR

Missionary

Doggy Style

I thought you meant sex positions. Too much time in the boob/ass/leg/porn/twitter/latina/BBW thread

Cowgirl.....


you know, the Golden Trifecta

Figure 4 Leg Lock

Because WRs are dependent on the team around them more than any other position. Shitty teams have good to great WRs all the time because having fantastic WRs will keep your shitty offense afloat. Just look at the Chiefs.

Which question are you answering? Are you saying that WR is the position with the negative correlation?

It's got to be the 49ers and the WR position. So yes, WR is the position with the negative correlation

I'd say LT is important if you have a crappy QB. Good LT masks how awful a non elite QB really is and an elite QB can get away with having an average LT. So pending your QB...

I'd also say having a good MLBer is up there. Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, Lawrence Timmons, Jerrod Mayo etc, guys who can be the QB of the defense. I'd argue that Derrick Johnson is the reason we even won 7 games last year.

WR actually had an extremely high correlation with wins. Second only to QBs. I was stunned.

There have been 28 teams with total WR ratings over 11.1 in the last 4 years, only one of them had a losing season. There have been 25 teams with total WR ratings of less than -16.7, none of them had winning seasons.

Also, the top 5 WRs (by PFF ratings) last year: Johnson (10 wins), Fitzgerald (8 wins), Welker (13 wins), Nelson (15 wins), and Colston (13 wins).

Running backs aren't as important. AP, Steven Jackson, MJD... and a shitload more play for terrible teams.

Yep. Out of the 13 positions, HBs were 7th, and FBs were tied for last. Neither was the overrated (imo) position I referred to in the OP, though.

Here's my guess at the order:

QB
WR
DL (4-3 DTs, 3-4 NTs, 3-4 DEs)
CB
T
LB (4-3 ILBs and OLBs, 3-4 ILBs)
S/HB (YOU SAID TIED FOR 7TH)
C
G
PR (4-3 DEs, 3-4 OLBs)
TE
FB

LMAO

You are really, really close. Although, I said FBs were tied for last, not HBs tied for 7th. Your DL is too high, and TEs are too low. Other than that, you're within just a few spots at each position.

Here's the order of correlation:

QB
WR
CB
S
T
TE
HB
G
LB
DL
PR
C/FB

I never would have guessed that Pass Rusher would be so low, or that Safety would be so high. The one with a negative correlation is a subset of one of the positions listed above. Any guesses?

In Order:

TE
Guard
Tackle
FB
Converted Safety to CB
White Linebacker
30Yr Old WR


/True Fans

I am surprised by the pass rusher being low, but not the least bit surprised that safety is so high.

I've been saying for a few years now that the safety position has become far more valuable now that it ever has been.

Punter - that's why we refer to Colquitt as MVP.

my top 5 as of now:

1. QB
2. LT
3. Pass Rushing Defensive End
4. Lights Out Middle Linebacker
5. #1 WR

Honorable Mention : Safety - the last line of defense becomes more and more important as Roger And The Do-Gooders continue castrating defenses.

And I saw what Willie Roaf did for our offense for you naysayers at my #2 Left Tackle. and my goodness how i miss it....

Here's my joke answer : #2 Tight End

like Chris Wilson, Dick Vermeil's "Secret Weapon"

as a whole:

Offensive Line and defensive line......the majority of the team. The trenches.

Etc etc.

Flame away, moforukkas

Tier 1:

QB

Tier 2:

passrusher
LT
#1 WR
#1 CB
Cover 2 MLB

Tier 3:

#2 WR
feature RB
4-3 DT
3-4 DE
4-3 MLB
CB

Tier 4:

Slot WR
RT
C
TE
4-3 OLB
SS
FS

Tier 5:

Change of pace RBs
Goal line RBs
OG
backup QB
K
P

Tier 6:

FB
LS
blocking TE
special teamers

Most important

Qb
Pass rushers
Lt
Cb
Wr
S
Dline

In 1970.

And you still needed a HOF QB to win the Super Bowl.

One out of three. How many pro bowl and h o lineman do you need? Surely you're not saying only one. Right?

The Steelers won a few Super Bowls this past decade with a pretty pathetic offensive line. Their defensive line hasn't been "great" since the 70's.

It's really all about the skill players on both sides of the ball and ultimately, the QB.

You could say the same about the Packers as well. The game has changed and continues to change.

niner's?
think about how many number one WR millen took in detroit

Fetal

DE

LEFT TACKLE

(negative correlation)

QB
LT
C
DE (Pass Rusher)
WR
MLB

ROFL

This has all been covered.

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QB
OL
DL
WR
CB
LB
S
RB
TE

Ding ding ding

The only position with a negative correlation between skill and wins was Left Tackle.

The five best LTs in the league last year? Jason Peters (8 wins), Eugene Monroe (5 wins), Duane Brown (10 wins), Joe Thomas (4 wins), and Jordan Gross (6 wins).

Meanwhile, Green Bay had Chad Clifton (-10.9) play 6 games at LT, and Marshall Newhouse (-40.5, the only tackle in the league rated worse than Barry Richardson) for 12 games. Yet somehow, they managed to win 15 games.

Somewhere a true fan is plotting a massacre that will result in the demise of dozens of people...

Where does Long Snapper fit into all this winning?

Well we did have a coach that drafted one in the 4th rd.

So to him it obviously was somewhat important.