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suzzer99 09-24-2013 12:53 AM

Who has(d) better odds of making the playoffs?
 
The Chiefs heading in to week 17 of 2006 or the Royals on 9/24/13? Note: for the purposes of this thread a tie-breaker game for the WC is considered making the playoffs.

|Zach| 09-24-2013 12:56 AM

Bananas.

BWillie 09-24-2013 12:57 AM

The Chiefs. And its not even close. Royals prob have less than 4% chance. Chiefs probably 50/50

BWillie 09-24-2013 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 10014387)
Bananas.

Monkeys.

cdcox 09-24-2013 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10014388)
The Chiefs. And its not even close. Royals prob have less than 4% chance. Chiefs probably 50/50

Chiefs week 17 2006 was under 2%. I don't remember the exact number, but like 6 things needed to happen.

I would calculate the Royals if I gave a shit.

cdcox 09-24-2013 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 10014419)
Chiefs week 17 2006 was under 2%. I don't remember the exact number, but like 6 things needed to happen.

I would calculate the Royals if I gave a shit.

I decided I gave 1/4 of a shit and googled this:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

1.5%, so they are about the same.

Chiefspants 09-24-2013 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 10014424)
I decided I gave 1/4 of a shit and googled this:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

1.5%, so they are about the same.

http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/upl...chance-gif.gif

BryanBusby 09-24-2013 02:41 AM

What a crazy week that was. Funny part is the final QB that made it a reality was Alex Smith lol

alnorth 09-24-2013 07:38 AM

Even when using the most optimistic assumptions that are still reasonable (eg ESPN's odds), the Royals only have roughly a 3.5% chance.

BlackHelicopters 09-24-2013 07:42 AM

At first glance, the odds seem fairly equal.

siberian khatru 09-24-2013 07:44 AM

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suzzer99 09-24-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 10014424)
I decided I gave 1/4 of a shit and googled this:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

1.5%, so they are about the same.

Thank you! This is the kind of science CP was designed for.

suzzer99 09-24-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10014497)
What a crazy week that was. Funny part is the final QB that made it a reality was Alex Smith lol

And Cutlahhh crapping the bed and losing the last 3 weeks of the season. So delicious.

suzzer99 09-24-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 10014424)
I decided I gave 1/4 of a shit and googled this:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

1.5%, so they are about the same.

The cool thing about these odds is all we need is one night where we win and Cleveland and Tampa lose and they go way up.

alnorth 09-24-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 10014825)
The cool thing about these odds is all we need is one night where we win and Cleveland and Tampa lose and they go way up.

Yep, we're late enough in the season where it can swing pretty wildly. A good day and it can go up a few points. A bad day, and it'll crater to near-zero.

cosmo20002 09-24-2013 09:25 AM

Who has better odds of making the playoffs--
2013 Royals or 2013 Chiefs?

Royals probably need to go 6-0 or 5-1, and have other teams lose several games.
Chiefs probably need to go 7-6.

I'd say Chiefs

whoman69 09-24-2013 09:57 AM

the Royals have not been above a 10% probability since May 22

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/pro...p?ymd=20130924

Right now they have a 3% chance.

Chiefs in 2006 had to win and have three other teams lose. One of those teams was 9-6 going in (Broncos), the other two were 8-7 (Bengals/Titans). Bengals were playing a division rival in the Steelers. Titans were a big underdog against the Patriots. Broncos had a letdown game with a rookie QB and were under pressure of blowing a 7-2 start.

Molitoth 09-24-2013 10:08 AM

All of that luck, just to go to Indy and RRPP the entire game.

That was some of the worst and unimaginative playcalling I had ever seen.

suzzer99 09-24-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10014890)
Who has better odds of making the playoffs--
2013 Royals or 2013 Chiefs?

Royals probably need to go 6-0 or 5-1, and have other teams lose several games.
Chiefs probably need to go 7-6.

I'd say Chiefs

No shit?

alnorth 09-24-2013 10:21 AM

Reposting this here, since yesterday, I've started to model the rest of this season every time the standings change.

OK, here's what I've got for today. I wound up at about 5.9%.

Maybe ESPN's odds are playing out the tiebreaker game, in which case I'm closer to what they have than baseball prospectus.

If we win out, then as of right now we're 50/50. If we lose one game, we're at about 14% (but that obviously will go up or down a lot based on what our opponents do).

Right now, 2 losses puts us somewhere above 1%, but its hard to tell if that was a fluke or not, because I only have 4 events to support that.

It is mathematically possible for us to make it with 3 losses, but after thousands of simulations now, I have not yet hit that event.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...psfb1e1449.jpg

edit: Adding on to the above: A simple way to estimate getting past the 163rd game (maybe even a 164th game) and at least reaching the wild card game can be done by giving half credit for 2-way 2nd wild card ties, one-third credit for 3-way 2nd wild card ties, and 2/3 credit for 3-way 1st wild card ties. (all others get full credit)

If you do that, we're at about 3.1% to reach at least the wild card round, which is very close to ESPN's odds.

HemiEd 09-24-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 10014424)
I decided I gave 1/4 of a shit and googled this:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

1.5%, so they are about the same.

If it were to happen, I doubt if Ned Yost's wife would have to tell him about it.

whoman69 09-24-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 10015031)
All of that luck, just to go to Indy and RRPP the entire game.

That was some of the worst and unimaginative playcalling I had ever seen.

They were frauds anyway. Green was a shell of himself after the concussion. Huard was Huard. They rode Larry Johnson to death. Those Chiefs were 15th in scoring offense and 11th in scoring defense. They were just +4 in turnover differential, not outstanding on either side of the ball. Chiefs had a points differential of +16. The offense was run by Mike Solari who was neutered when during a pre-season game Herm threw him under the bus for actually trying to score a TD near the end of the half instead of settling for a FG.

The 2006 Chiefs were probably the worst playoff team in franchise history.

suzzer99 09-24-2013 10:43 AM

1986 was a pretty bad team

Pasta Little Brioni 09-24-2013 10:49 AM

Your Time?

CaliforniaChief 09-24-2013 10:55 AM

This was actually an interesting question. Some of you have reading comprehension issues. The one thing I'll say apart from the long odds is what happens if the Royals actually get in. The Chiefs? We knew there was little chance of them going far. But I really think the Royals could make some noise in the playoffs if they got in, particularly if Detroit took out Oakland. KC has a winning record against both the Red Sox and Tigers this year. Oakland owns us, though.


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