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pugsnotdrugs19 02-09-2016 02:55 PM

Jaye Howard's Replacement? Bullard
 
I've seen this guy mocked to us more than any other player out there. At first I was skeptical. Then, I saw this highlight tape. Reminds me a ton of Suh, personally. Not to say he's going to be that dominant, but just watch some of these plays.

This guy looks like a day one difference maker next to Bailey and Poe. Also, saw on a mock where he was considered a guy who really loved the game and played with a lot of passion. Those are the types that the Chiefs love.

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ChiefGator 02-09-2016 03:01 PM

Bullard was huge.. and consistently made significant plays on significant downs. When needed the most, he had a tendency to step up.

Would love to see him in a Chiefs uniform.

O.city 02-09-2016 03:04 PM

Nice.

DJ's left nut 02-09-2016 03:07 PM

Totally on board with him - I love what Bullard can bring to the table.

Arm length is a question but I think he'd be an absolute horse as a 5-technique for us, especially on an NFL strength program where you'd think he can probably get to a very strong 300 lbs. He might be a little light right now at 285ish but with Poe and Bailey drawing so much attention, his incredible first step, when combined with the speed that Houston and Ford bring off the edge, will be incredibly disruptive.

Moreover, he plays bigger than 285 against the run because of good instincts and a hard-nosed approach.

If we draft a D-Lineman, he's my favorite option and by a fair amount. I could be talked into a different position (maybe Eli Apple at CB, Will Fuller at WR) but if we're drafting DL, I just can't see liking a prospect who is likely to be available to us more than I like him and how he can fit in this system.

mcaj22 02-09-2016 03:10 PM

I could see the Seahawks or Packers snagging him right in front of us and everyone getting fired up.

staylor26 02-09-2016 03:15 PM

Bullard would be fantastic, but I think Chris Jones from Miss St. would be even better.

RunKC 02-09-2016 03:17 PM

If we go this route there are several guys who would be awesome. Some like Austin Johnson bc of his size and athleticism.

I want to keep Howard, but if falls through I think Vernon Butler would be the best DL. The guy is 325 lbs and looks to be about as athleticism as Bullard, which is quite surprising.
Butler reminds me of Muhammed Wilkerson

The Franchise 02-09-2016 03:17 PM

If we don't go Will Fuller......I'm fine with him as our pick.

staylor26 02-09-2016 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12073469)
If we go this route there are several guys who would be awesome. Some like Austin Johnson bc of his size and athleticism.

I want to keep Howard, but if falls through I think Vernon Butler would be the best DL. The guy is 325 lbs and looks to be about as athleticism as Bullard, which is quite surprising.
Butler reminds me of Muhammed Wilkerson

Dude check out Chris Jones. 6'5" 300+ and quick as shit. Guaranteed he will jump to the top of your list.

RunKC 02-09-2016 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12073461)
Bullard would be fantastic, but I think Chris Jones from Miss St. would be even better.

Really like this guy too. 34 QB pressures and 11.5 stuffs.

this draft is tailor made for us in the event of emergency due to the strength of the DL and CB positions.

I want Dorsey to do everything he can to keep both Howard and Smith, but if both took off for insane money, I truly think we could find replacements for these guys without a substantial initial dropoff

pugsnotdrugs19 02-09-2016 03:25 PM

Essentially it looks like we have some great options on the DL this year and thus it seems to wise to let Howard walk.....

I think I like Bullard a lot now because he reminds me so much of Suh. It surprises me how many mocks don't have him in the first round period, but all that do have him to us or after. I'll check those other guys out.

The Franchise 02-09-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12073483)
Really like this guy too. 34 QB pressures and 11.5 stuffs.

this draft is tailor made for us in the event of emergency due to the strength of the DL and CB positions.

I want Dorsey to do everything he can to keep both Howard and Smith, but if both took off for insane money, I truly think we could find replacements for these guys without a substantial initial dropoff

You don't think that a rookie CB would be that big of a substantial dropoff to Smith?

O.city 02-09-2016 03:26 PM

Does anyone else hate the idea of a first round dl, because chiefs?

staylor26 02-09-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12073495)
Does anyone else hate the idea of a first round dl, because chiefs?

I don't know why anybody would be this draft is absolutely loaded at DL.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-09-2016 03:30 PM

I like the Jones kid from what I have seen-- he has great burst. Butler I am not as high on as Jones or Bullard.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-09-2016 03:34 PM

If Dorsey can hit on one of these guys this year and they turn out like a Wilkerson/Wolfe/Jackson/Richardson type, it's the type of pick that blows the hinges off the SB window. Just think about adding a player with that type of talent to a front 7 with Houston, Poe, Bailey, DJ, and (hopefully) a consistent Ford.

O.city 02-09-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12073502)
I don't know why anybody would be this draft is absolutely loaded at DL.

The chiefs haven't had the most success with first round dlmen.

Doesn't really have much to do with the current regime, though

staylor26 02-09-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12073551)
The chiefs haven't had the most success with first round dlmen.

Doesn't really have much to do with the current regime, though

Exactly and our last one was Poe, so I'd say we've gotten past that.

O.city 02-09-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12073559)
Exactly and our last one was Poe, so I'd say we've gotten past that.

One success doesn't out weight like, 8 misses, but we aren't picking top 5, ao the risk of a fat body getting paid and not wanting to play isn't high.

Defensive lineman always make me leary, in that it's a pretty big jump to the nfl from a physicality standpoint l, especially in the trenches.

Mr. Laz 02-09-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12073490)
Jaye Howard's Replacement?

I would like a replacement for you.

staylor26 02-09-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12073565)
One success doesn't out weight like, 8 misses, but we aren't picking top 5, ao the risk of a fat body getting paid and not wanting to play isn't high.

Defensive lineman always make me leary, in that it's a pretty big jump to the nfl from a physicality standpoint l, especially in the trenches.

I understand your concerns, but this DL class is like the WR class from a couple years ago. We can get some great value at 28 there.

Like this guy:
http://youtu.be/vguCmKduWrY

pugsnotdrugs19 02-09-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12073578)
I would like a replacement for you.

This coming from you? :facepalm:

RunKC 02-09-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12073491)
You don't think that a rookie CB would be that big of a substantial dropoff to Smith?

With the talent available I think we could be okay. Looking back, we got killed bc we had Jamel Fleming and Marcus Cooper who got raped.

I think that signing an additional vet like Casey Heyward or Jeremy Lane whike adding a CB through the deaft would be ideal

jonzie04 02-09-2016 04:17 PM

Man I just can't see how Bullard could possibly go at the end of the First. He looks like he could become an elite 3-4 pass rushing end, and those guys are extremely rare.

DJ's left nut 02-09-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12073602)
With the talent available I think we could be okay. Looking back, we got killed bc we had Jamel Fleming and Marcus Cooper who got raped.

I think that signing an additional vet like Casey Heyward or Jeremy Lane whike adding a CB through the deaft would be ideal

Lane would be an outstanding depth pickup but he just might be surprisingly expensive.

Would you be willing to give him the contract that we gave Smith 3 years ago? He might be able to get close to that. And with his injury history, it's possible that we could end up at $5 million/yr for a guy that spends half that contract in the tub.

He has the talent to excel in this system. His injury history should keep him from expecting to start somewhere so the Gaines/Lane battle would be a great one. I just worry that the injury history and the amount of money in the market may make him a pretty high risk proposition.

chiefzilla1501 02-09-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12073495)
Does anyone else hate the idea of a first round dl, because chiefs?

Hopefully people would understand the difference between drafting a 5-tech at #3 vs. back of the first round. Even still, now that we're not asking 5-techs to play the Patriots 2-gap as much, the value of a stud 5-tech is much better than it used to be.

RunKC 02-09-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12073617)
Lane would be an outstanding depth pickup but he just might be surprisingly expensive.

Would you be willing to give him the contract that we gave Smith 3 years ago? He might be able to get close to that. And with his injury history, it's possible that we could end up at $5 million/yr for a guy that spends half that contract in the tub.

He has the talent to excel in this system. His injury history should keep him from expecting to start somewhere so the Gaines/Lane battle would be a great one. I just worry that the injury history and the amount of money in the market may make him a pretty high risk proposition.

This is very true. I'm wondering if Casey Heyward would be better? He's a bit streaky but I think he could be a decent starter.

I want us to load up at the position. Peters, Smith (or Vet FA), Gaines, Nelson and early draft pick with Parker as additional emergency insurance.
I want to be ready for any injury at all times at CB bc it's so important and we can't afford to have Bums like Cooper holding us back like this year.

With this same token, I want to add another OLB even if Tamba comes back.

RippedmyFlesh 02-09-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12073551)
The chiefs haven't had the most success with first round dlmen.

Doesn't really have much to do with the current regime, though

None what so ever. It's just in our chief's fans mind. Kind of like Reid not realizing how big a playoff win was for the fans. Chief fans are like elephants we never forget.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-09-2016 04:32 PM

We just signed his replacement about a month ago. Can't remember his name but he's a huge run stuffer coming off an injury.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-09-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12073641)
We just signed his replacement about a month ago. Can't remember his name but he's a huge run stuffer coming off an injury.

Ta'amu.

Yes, very intriguing. I think he's more the NT type but that guy was a run stuffer big time his rookie year. I could see him panning out like Abdullah did, but I don't know if he's at the level of a Bullard.

Baby Lee 02-09-2016 04:43 PM

Huh, n***er rhymes with digger. Who knew? After that clip, we all do.

ChiefAshhole1056 02-09-2016 07:06 PM

Has a little Aaron Donald to him.. Doesn't use much hands, and with his arm length concerns that may be an issue, but that explosion and tenacity is special.

Baby Lee 02-09-2016 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12073495)
Does anyone else hate the idea of a first round dl, because chiefs?

1. Draft class dependent.
2. Dorse ain't DickyV.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-09-2016 08:48 PM

Just cause Jackson and Dorsey didn't pan out in the best way doesn't mean you should be scared whatsoever about drafting a DL early. Look at Poe.

Muhammad Wilkerson was taken like 30th overall. Good players come all over the place. As do busts.

O.city 02-09-2016 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12074176)
Just cause Jackson and Dorsey didn't pan out in the best way doesn't mean you should be scared whatsoever about drafting a DL early. Look at Poe.

Muhammad Wilkerson was taken like 30th overall. Good players come all over the place. As do busts.

You haven't been a chief fan long huh?

kccrow 02-09-2016 09:13 PM

I like Bullard, I really do, but this draft is so deep at defensive tackle going into the 4th and 5th rounds even, that I don't see spending a 1st round pick on one. I think you can get what would be at least a border 1st rounder late in the 2nd in this draft. A guy like Adolphus Washington, Chris Jones, Matt Ioannidis, Jihad Ward, and Brandon Kaufusi are guys you'll be able to get day 2 or day 3 with quite a bit of talent.

I'd much rather see a play maker like Will Fuller in round 1 followed by a couple big bodies in 2 and 3 for the offensive and defensive lines. Fill out the draft with a couple of DBs and a pass rusher early day 3 and I'd be a very happy camper.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-09-2016 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12074192)
You haven't been a chief fan long huh?

To go any further than that wouldn't even be wise. Hell, it's not even wise to look at those players considering their regime but at least they played with some of the guys on our roster and played in the 3-4.

staylor26 04-29-2016 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12073477)
Dude check out Chris Jones. 6'5" 300+ and quick as shit. Guaranteed he will jump to the top of your list.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12073461)
Bullard would be fantastic, but I think Chris Jones from Miss St. would be even better.

:)

BlackOp 04-29-2016 11:31 PM

Nice call!

pugsnotdrugs19 04-29-2016 11:33 PM

Cred to staylor nice call.

He does jump out at times.


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