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MagicHef 02-01-2013 09:00 AM

Drafting and Developing QBs
 
Some may remember my earlier thread about DTs and DE/OLBs. This one should be more interesting, due to the QBness of it. I did the same for QBs, using data from PFF to analyse the typical development of a QB as well as the expected return from a draft pick spent on a QB. Here is development:

http://s7.postimage.org/hr4gqwgmz/QBdevelop.png

Pretty steady climb through 12 years. Basically all the ridiculous waves on the right are thanks to Favre.

Here are snaps per year:

http://s7.postimage.org/9999b5v7f/QBsnaps.png

I'm a little surprised that rookies take more snaps than any other group.

Here is skill (vertical) vs draft position (horizontal). Blue dots are draft picks, the dark green, light green, white, pink, and red lines are the 90th, 75th, 50th, 25th, and 10th percentile respectively.

http://s17.postimage.org/3pnqt69hr/QBdraft.png

Huh. Drafting a QB late looks about the same as picking up a UDFA. This led me to make another chart. I arbitrarily decided that a QB in the 95th percentile was elite, 85th percentile was good, and 50th percentile was average. I then decided to determine the percent likelihood of drafting a QB in each round that fell into each category.

http://s8.postimage.org/ytdvo6jhh/QBdraftpercent.png

In case that doesn't make sense, I'll explain:

A QB drafted in the first round has a:

17.5% chance of being Elite
37.5% chance of being Good
50% chance of being at least average.

Second round:
0% Elite
6.25% Good
37.5% Average

Third round:
0% Elite
13.3% Good
53.3% Average

Fourth round:
0% Elite
8.3% Good
41.7% Average

Fifth round:
0% Elite
0% Good
14.3% Average

Sixth Round:
0% Elite
0% Good
50% Average

Seventh Round:
3.2% Elite (Tom Brady)
3.2% Good
45.2% Average

UDFA
0% Elite
7.7% Good
73.1% Average

My conclusion: If you do not draft a QB in the first round, there is no point drafting one at all. Just pick up a UDFA.

Dayze 02-01-2013 09:03 AM

interesting.

hmm.

CaliforniaChief 02-01-2013 09:06 AM

Wasn't Brady a 6th rounder?

CaliforniaChief 02-01-2013 09:07 AM

That said, pretty damning numbers for the true fan.

Deberg_1990 02-01-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9369745)
Wasn't Brady a 6th rounder?

:facepalm:

MagicHef 02-01-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9369745)
Wasn't Brady a 6th rounder?

Yeah, I went by draft pick # (Brady was 199) then put the first 32 in round 1, etc. Compensatory selections pushed that pick back, basically.

AussieChiefsFan 02-01-2013 09:11 AM

Fascinating.

O.city 02-01-2013 09:18 AM

The best place/chance to get a franchise Qb is the first round.

Who knew?

This is new info that has never been said on CP.


Non sarcastic though, great work Magic. Ok with you if I spam this on Twitter to the masses?

MagicHef 02-01-2013 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9369765)
The best place/chance to get a franchise Qb is the first round.

Who knew?

This is new info that has never been said on CP.


Non sarcastic though, great work Magic. Ok with you if I spam this on Twitter to the masses?

Go ahead

AussieChiefsFan 02-01-2013 09:31 AM

Probably should show this to some facebookers too.

MagicHef 02-01-2013 09:38 AM

Oops, some of the percentages were a bit off. It's fixed now.

ChiefGator 02-01-2013 09:57 AM

Awesome! Thanks for doing this!

Coogs 02-01-2013 10:29 AM

So Brees (2nd round) is just average to good?

The Franchise 02-01-2013 10:35 AM

Skipped and just read this.

Quote:

My conclusion: If you do not draft a QB in the first round, there is no point drafting one at all. Just pick up a UDFA.

Three7s 02-01-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9369912)
So Brees (2nd round) is just average to good?

Don't forget Joe Montana, whom was drafted in the 3rd round I believe.


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