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kcbubb 07-28-2009 10:44 AM

Devil's advocate-Chiefs shouldn't have signed Cassel & should've waited & signed Vick
 
The Chiefs offense in the last 7 games of the year improved greatly and was performing in the top half the league using Gailey's modified spread offense. This offense used a running QB who threw primarily short, quick passes and the QB lead the league in rushing for his position.

This offense would have been perfect for Michael Vick, who led the league in QB rushing several times. Vick has never been a great passer or decision maker, but Gailey's offense which relied on easy decision making, mostly short passes and the QB running the ball would have fit Vick perfectly. And this offense is more suited to the Chiefs current offensive line which has and will struggle. The Chiefs could have allowed Thigpen and Vick to compete but obviously Thigpen would have the job for at least the first 6 games.

This would have also allowed the Chiefs to use their draft differently to fill many gaping holes and obvious lack of depth with the offensive line, linebacker, a pass rusher, TE and wide receiver.

The Chiefs could have stuck with the 4-3 and tried to overhaul their defense with Curry, Everette Brown or Ray Malaugua (Brown & Malaugua were both available in the 2nd round), or Michael Johnson (available in the 3rd round).

Or they could have mixed that in with trying to revamp their offensive line with the many players that were available or with a TE like Jared Cook who was available in the 3rd round who would have complimented our big TE, Cottam.

Instead we are stuck with watching a young QB play behind a weak offensive line and throw to receivers that drop many passes or can't stay healthy with out the best pass catching option from last year. And the only significant improvement to one of the worst defenses in the league was to the defensive line and a couple of old linebackers.

Lzen 07-28-2009 10:46 AM

Shut up, you!

88TG88 07-28-2009 10:47 AM

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Vick has never been a great passer or decision maker,
Then why sign him ?

sedated 07-28-2009 10:49 AM

nice attempt, though.

The Franchise 07-28-2009 10:49 AM

Umm.....what?

Dumbest.

Thread.

Evar!!

Bwana 07-28-2009 10:49 AM

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Reaper16 07-28-2009 10:50 AM

Man, the child-safety locks on playpins aren't shit these days.

FAX 07-28-2009 10:50 AM

Well ... there's a thought.

Vick could have made yardage with the Sloption, that's true. But, how were we to know that Vick would be available? I mean, before the draft and/or at the time we made the deal for Cassel?

FAX

kcbubb 07-28-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 88TG88 (Post 5930368)
Then why sign him ?

Vick would have excelled in Gailey's offense. He's probably a better passer and runner than Thigpen. And Thiggy did pretty good in the offense.

Mr. Wizard 07-28-2009 10:51 AM

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Fish 07-28-2009 10:53 AM

Are you forgetting that the spread offense we ran... which Thigpen did well in... still only netted us 2 wins?

If we waited on Vick, we would have essentially wasted the season. The first (very important) season for the new GM, Coach, and coaching staff.....

Just Passin' By 07-28-2009 10:55 AM

WTF does Vick have to do with the 3-4 or 4-3 and any theoretical decision not to overhaul the defense? All Cassel cost the Chiefs was a second round pick, for crying out loud.

kcbubb 07-28-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5930385)
Well ... there's a thought.

Vick could have made yardage with the Sloption, that's true. But, how were we to know that Vick would be available? I mean, before the draft and/or at the time we made the deal for Cassel?

FAX

you couldn't have known for sure, but I thought he was going to be around this year. And he will be cheap.

just look at last year from the Jets game to the end of the season. There are 10 games there. And if the Chiefs defense and QB play were a little better, they could probably have one at least five or six of those games.

If Vick could play a little better than Thigpen and the defense could have improved, we would be much better than we are right now.

Fish 07-28-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5930421)
you couldn't have known for sure, but I thought he was going to be around this year. And he will be cheap.

just look at last year from the Jets game to the end of the season. There are 10 games there. And if the Chiefs defense and QB play were a little better, they could probably have one at least five or six of those games.

If Vick could play a little better than Thigpen and the defense could have improved, we would be much better than we are right now.

A few wins better? What good would that have done? Most of us want more than a few wins better.

Vick is not the answer. Not no way, not no how....

kcbubb 07-28-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5930414)
WTF does Vick have to do with the 3-4 or 4-3 and any theoretical decision not to overhaul the defense? All Cassel cost the Chiefs was a second round pick, for crying out loud.

Do you know what players were available with that 2nd pick???


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