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Old 01-11-2006, 04:04 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by FringeNC
Robinson had a nice run, too, during Denver's glory years. Does that make him a great coordinator, too?

The fact is when Robinson and Gun had the same players, Robinson's D had better stats, and way more turnovers. That is 16 games worth of data, and it is pretty clear from that data that Gun is a worse DC than Greg Robinson, who we all agree sucked.

You let him go on a spending spree, and he improves the D marginally? Well, BFD! Who wouldn't show improvement when two rookies of the year, and an all-Pro CB are signed?
You're right he did have a nice run and Denver and no that doesn't make him a great coordintor, it does however prove my point.

What good is having 70 INT's a season, 3000 fumble recoveries and still be 29th in yards allowed?

And if you look up at the stats I posted the Yards per play only Gun's D's only averaged maybe giving up a little over a yard more per play.

In Denver he had talent, he did well. In KC he didn't have talent, he did Poor.

1995-1998 Gun had talent, he did well. 2004-2005 He didn't have talent, he did poor.

Belichek in Cleveland, Poor. Belichek in N.E. Genius.

It's a pattern, do you see it? When any coach is surrounded by talent they will excel.

Take Guns talent away he's just a good Defensive minded guy with nothing to work with. Take G-Rob's talent away, same thing.

My question to you is how can you blame Gun for the talent or lack thereof, that is on the field?

Because in the end that's what you are doing.
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