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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501
Right.
Because Peyton Manning doesn't call audibles.
Because Tom Brady didn't do it with his pocket presence and quick release.
Because Kurt Warner didn't do it
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Those guys are good, but they aren't Elway. Peyton Manning had a great WR core his ENTIRE career.
Tom Brady is overrated. He wouldn't have one SB trophy if his team didn't cheat.
Elway only had comparable talent to what Warner had his last 4 years.
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501
And before you use your reeruned argument about how Elway had no one around him (because I know it's coming), I'm sure that Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharpe, Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey and the outstanding coaching of Mike Shanahan had NOTHING to do with Elway's success.
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AGAIN. That was Elway's last 4 years here. He went to 3 SB's with players like Ricky Natiel, Sammy Winder, Gerald Whilhite, Marc Jackson, Vance Johnson, Steve Watson, and Steve Sewell....
Here... Let me post this again because it seems like you missed it.
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“So far in Elway’s career, his offensive linemen and wide receivers have been voted to the Pro Bowl a combined seven times. In Dan Marino’s 15 seasons, Miami Dolphins offensive linemen and wide receivers have been selected to the Pro Bowl 30 times. … Though usually surrounded by a human rummage sale, Elway has won more games as a starter than any other quarterback in NFL history (148). He had more 4th quarter or overtime come from behnd victories than any other QB in history. (49) It’s the equivalent of carving Mount Rushmore with a spoon or composing Beethoven’s Ninth on a kazoo.
But Elway’s career has been about more than just winning. It has been about escaping defeat a half page from the end of the novel, leaping over pits of fire with the microdot hidden in his cigarette lighter. On first down Elway was ‘pretty average,’ his Stanford coach Paul Wiggin once said. But when the elementary school kids are being held hostage and the detonator reads 00:03, who would you rather have clipping the wires than Elway? He may be the only quarterback in history who could stand on his own two-yard line, trailing by five with less than two minutes to play, no timeouts left, windchill –5, and cause the opposing coach to mutter, ‘We’re in trouble.’” --Rick Reilly, Sports Illustrated, qtd. in Austin Murphy’s The Super Bowl: Sports Greatest Championship
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501
And your argument is suggesting that Kyle Orton will be as good as Kurt Warner, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Big Ben, etc... etc... etc.... QBs, who apparently wouldn't have made the Super Bowl if not for a superb supporting cast.
Again, even the Broncos' fans are disowning you. I thought the Simpsons had the biggest homer. But apparently it's you.
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I never said Kyle Orton wouuld be as good as Joe Montana or Peyton Manning. Actually I said I think he could be one of the top 10-15 QB's in the league this year. I think Orton will be solid and he won't hold us back. We can win playoff games with Orton if Denver has a respectable defense.
All QB's need a really talented team to win SB's. It's just Elway can do more with less than any QB in NFL history.