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Old 07-14-2012, 12:16 PM   #212
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 View Post
The death penalty will never happen again.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat that the death penalty is not just a hit to the football program, it is a devastating blow to a public education institution. One that Pennsylvania taxpayers pay for. One that employs thousands of faculty members. And one that provides quality education to students, many of which can't afford a private university because it's too expensive.

I've talked about the millions of people affected by a death penalty. And you keep singing the same tune that these people who did nothing illegal, for some reason, deserve it because some assholes abused power. The point is to punish the football program, not to destroy an otherwise terrific educational institution that provides a major public benefit.

I don't understand what point you're trying to prove. The guys responsible are going to get destroyed for this. Good. The guys you're trying to destroy with a death penalty are taxpayers, and innocent faculty members, students, and Pennsylvania residents who rely on the school. Again, please tell me who the "they" is when you say that "they" will learn a lesson from the death penalty?
What you're saying would make it impossible to control or punish any organization. If Ford's top executives know that a part they're using will lead to many deaths, the company (and also the individuals) is liable for civil and criminal penalties. The company is liable even though there are many innocent employees and even more innocent stock holders who will suffer as a result. But this has to be the case because, (i) an organization cannot act but through individuals, and hence the individuals' actions are those of the organization, and (ii) an organization would have no incentive to ensure that its agents acted properly if only the individuals were punished. It can't possibly be the case that the top individuals in Penn State Football, acting on behalf of Penn State Football and for the benefit of Penn State Football, can cover up and in some ways facilitate child rape, and no wrongdoing is imputed to Penn State Football. First, the people doing these things were, for all intents and purposes, Penn State Football. Second, if they can just usher those people out with no punishment to the organization, there is no incentive to ensure good behavior by any future agents of Penn State Football.
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