[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Tendered? Wha?

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Carr was tendered for a first round pick just before training camp last season. When Pioli did this, negociations were off until after the season. A team could have traded for Carr but would have had to give a first round pick. He never should have been tendered. He should have gotten a contract.

Right now Belcher has a 2nd round tender . He will probably walk too.

A tender is sort of like a mini tag....

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit.

And it's spelled negotiations. This is second time I've seen you misspell the word.

Carr's agent and Pioli could have negotiated a contract, which Carr could have signed the minute the season was over.

It didn't happen.





The reason he was tendered was so that he wouldn't go anywhere and the Chiefs could continue to negotiate. He was absolutely right to give him the First Round Tender, otherwise, he could have walked without ANY compensation.

JFC.



Good. He ****ing sucks ass. It's awesome that the Chiefs continue to pass on ILBer's. Daryl Washington, anyone?




No, it's not.

Originally Posted by BlackBob

It looks to me like you just researched some of this which is a good thing. There is no reason to be rude man. I treated you with respect in my reply. However, I didn't explain the tender process in detail.

Maybe the most important thing that is being left out is that after he was tendered, we could only offer him up to 120% of his tender salary the following year (2012). This is the only offer we could make before free agency began and he wasn't going to take that. The new cba is designed to set players free.

Pioli blew it when we tendered him.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/2/15...ive-bargaining

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by BlackBob

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Here it is in a nutshell... This is another angle with an explanation that is even easier to understand. There were several rules with Carr's tag.


Dwayne Bowe could not be franchised unless we allowed Carr to hit the open market. Period. There's a rule in the NFL that requires a player hit UFA status if he is given a raise in base salary of more than 30% from one season to the next. When the Chiefs gave him the one-year restricted tender (increasing his base salary from around 400K to 2.6mil), Carr was instantly guaranteed to hit the open market unless franchised.

The only course of action Pioli could take to retain both players was to re-sign Bowe and franchise Carr...

here's the official link... http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...-2011-2020.pdf


Is that a better explanation?

Originally Posted by BlackBob

With all due respect, Dane is incorrect and I think you know it. Here's an old thread from this website of the same thing I was talking about.

You are posting in the thread Boss. We couldn't prevent Carr from becoming a UFA without tagging him.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...253308&page=15

Edit:

Also, the answer is yes to your next question. The 30% rule from the old CBA applied last August. With the new CBA you can't go over 30% in the first place...

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How about a big healthy dose of shut the **** up?

Hey Dane,

**** YOU! YOU ARE A GOD DAMN LIAR.