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Old 09-18-2012, 02:08 PM   #1
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Before he was tendered .... yes, I agree.

By the end of the season the Cowboys needed a CB. We should have had him re-signed long before that.
Tendered? Wha?
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:11 PM   #2
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Tendered? Wha?
Carr was tendered for a first round pick just before training camp last season. When Pioli did this, negociations were off until after the season. A team could have traded for Carr but would have had to give a first round pick. He never should have been tendered. He should have gotten a contract.

Right now Belcher has a 2nd round tender . He will probably walk too.

A tender is sort of like a mini tag....
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #3
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Carr was tendered for a first round pick just before training camp last season. When Pioli did this, negociations were off until after the season.
Bullshit.

And it's spelled negotiations. This is second time I've seen you misspell the word.

Carr's agent and Pioli could have negotiated a contract, which Carr could have signed the minute the season was over.

It didn't happen.

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A team could have traded for Carr but would have had to give a first round pick. He never should have been tendered. He should have gotten a contract.


The reason he was tendered was so that he wouldn't go anywhere and the Chiefs could continue to negotiate. He was absolutely right to give him the First Round Tender, otherwise, he could have walked without ANY compensation.

JFC.

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Right now Belcher has a 2nd round tender . He will probably walk too.
Good. He ****ing sucks ass. It's awesome that the Chiefs continue to pass on ILBer's. Daryl Washington, anyone?


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A tender is sort of like a mini tag....
No, it's not.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:58 PM   #4
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Bullshit.

And it's spelled negotiations. This is second time I've seen you misspell the word.

Carr's agent and Pioli could have negotiated a contract, which Carr could have signed the minute the season was over.

It didn't happen.



The reason he was tendered was so that he wouldn't go anywhere and the Chiefs could continue to negotiate. He was absolutely right to give him the First Round Tender, otherwise, he could have walked without ANY compensation.

JFC.
It looks to me like you just researched some of this which is a good thing. There is no reason to be rude man. I treated you with respect in my reply. However, I didn't explain the tender process in detail.

Maybe the most important thing that is being left out is that after he was tendered, we could only offer him up to 120% of his tender salary the following year (2012). This is the only offer we could make before free agency began and he wasn't going to take that. The new cba is designed to set players free.

Pioli blew it when we tendered him.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/2/15...ive-bargaining
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:01 PM   #5
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It looks to me like you just researched some of this which is a good thing. There is no reason to be rude man. I treated you with respect in my reply. However, I didn't explain the tender process in detail.

Maybe the most important thing that is being left out is that after he was tendered, we could only offer him up to 120% of his tender salary the following year (2012). This is the only offer we could make before free agency began and he wasn't going to take that. The new cba is designed to set players free.

Pioli blew it when we tendered him.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/2/15...ive-bargaining
Your link is purely about unrestricted free agents. Carr was a restricted free agent going into the 2011 season. He became an unrestricted free agent following the 2011 season.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:08 PM   #6
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It looks to me like you just researched some of this which is a good thing. There is no reason to be rude man. I treated you with respect in my reply. However, I didn't explain the tender process in detail.

Maybe the most important thing that is being left out is that after he was tendered, we could only offer him up to 120% of his tender salary the following year (2012). This is the only offer we could make before free agency began and he wasn't going to take that. The new cba is designed to set players free.

Pioli blew it when we tendered him.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/2/15...ive-bargaining


I don't see where Dane was rude. Explain Dumbass!
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:13 PM   #7
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I don't see where Dane was rude. Explain Dumbass!
Bob is kinda like Cassel at this point.

Dane has ran a couple well orchestrated blitzes on him and now he is seeing phantom pressure.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:53 PM   #8
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Bob is kinda like Cassel at this point.

Dane has ran a couple well orchestrated blitzes on him and now he is seeing phantom pressure.
With all due respect, Dane is incorrect and I think you know it. Here's an old thread from this website of the same thing I was talking about.

You are posting in the thread Boss. We couldn't prevent Carr from becoming a UFA without tagging him.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...253308&page=15

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Also, the answer is yes to your next question. The 30% rule from the old CBA applied last August. With the new CBA you can't go over 30% in the first place...
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:30 PM   #9
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It looks to me like you just researched some of this which is a good thing.


You're an idiot.
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