At this point, who do you want most?

[Reaper16]

Say that we could draft anyone not a consensus top ten pick, who's at the top of your list right now?
For me, I really want Haloti Ngata, Michael Huff, or Marcus McNiell.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

I think Greenway would be an excellent choice to replace Bell.

If you like your linebacker to avoid contact and get taken out of the play more often than not.

[ct]

OT Marcus McNeil, Auburn
LB Chad Greenway, Iowa
WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio St.

There's 3 that could be available at or near 20. DT is at the top of my wish list right now, but would prefer we address that in FA...Richard Seymour!!

[jiveturkey]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Guys I'd like that could be available:

- Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
- Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn
- Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
- Darnell Bing, S, Southern Cal
- Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
- Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
- Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
- Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State
- Michael Huff, CB/S, Texas

I like your list. I would only add Chad Jackson to it.

[ct]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

If you like your linebacker to avoid contact and get taken out of the play more often than not.

Like Derrick Johnson? Yeah, we'd better pass then.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by jiveturkey

I like your list. I would only add Chad Jackson to it.

I like Chad a lot, but I left him off cause I've actually seen him falling to the area around our 2nd rounder, behind Holmes and Hagan at WR.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by coryt

Like Derrick Johnson? Yeah, we'd better pass then.

I didn't mean avoid contact as in avoiding blockers. I meant avoiding contact as in avoiding the ballcarrier.

[eazyb81]

Mathias Kiwanuka, a.k.a. Kiwi.

Would provide the consistent pass rush from the DE spot that we desperately need.

Can anyone say DT Part 2?

[ct]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Mathias Kiwanuka, a.k.a. Kiwi.

Would provide the consistent pass rush from the DE spot that we desperately need.

Can anyone say DT Part 2?

Never heard of him, info please?

[Spicy McHaggis]

Originally Posted by coryt

Never heard of him, info please?

From About.com

Much like Rodrique Wright, Kiwanuka has a very fast first step. Combine this fact with his speed and he will constantly be in the backfield recording sacks. He has a motor that never stops, which allows him to be around and/or involved in every play. He's a very smart player, which allows him to eliminate the stupid mistakes that many players make.

Negatives:
Mathias isn't strong enough to take on most tackles, and has to rely on speed to much to get past blocks. He also isn't very good at getting off blocks to stop the run plays at the line of scrimmage. These are two things that will hurt him in the NFL, but are things that can be corrected with work.

Overview:
Mathias would have more than likely been a top 10 pick last year, but decided to come back for his final season. Plays much the way that Dwight Freeney does, using speed to get around blocks. However, Freeney can also stop the run.

Unless Kiwanuka bulks up he could struggle and be a bust. He will also have to work very hard on being able to get off a block and stop the run at the line of scrimmage, instead of making the play 10 yards down field. Despite all this he will more than likely be a top 15 pick this year

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He'd be a great pick for us even though he wouldn't help the run defense too much. He does have room to bulk up a bit though. The article says he should top 15 pick but I say top 10, maybe going to Detroit at #9.

No way in hell Kiwi is available at 20, he'll go in the top 10. We're probably looking at Claude Wroten at DT, or the #3-5 rated DEs in the draft by the time we pick. I'd also like to see us pick up Omar Jacobs as our QBOTF...he got hurt this year, but last year everyone was touting him as a sure first rounder. He has a bit of a sidearm delivery, but can make all the throws, and is a great athlete.

[HolmeZz]

Actually Kiwi looks like he could be a faller in this draft. Hasn't fully recovered from that injury from the UVA game and shows no explosion.

[Mr. Laz]

Mario Williams DE 6’7 290 North Carolina St. Jr.
By: Robert Davis

Teaming with Manny Lawson, Mario Williams has helped give NC St. the most feared edge rush duo in college football. As a freshman in 2003, Williams made an immediate impact. For the year he tallied 56 tackles, 13 for loss, and five sacks. He was named to everyone’s Frosh All American lists. As a sophomore, his numbers were almost identical. He finished with 57 tackles, 15 for loss, and six sacks.

There may not be a better physical specimen at any position in the draft. Williams has fantastic size for a defensive end, but couples that with supreme athleticism. He draws a lot of comparisons to Julius Peppers for his size and athleticism combination. Mario has the quickness off the line, the ability to change direction, and the closing speed to be a major factor as a pass rusher. But his height and bulk allow him to be a force against the run as well.

Despite being so talented, Williams has not dominated like he should. He just seems to disappear at times. For how big and athletic he is, he should just own opposing tackles. Perhaps that is because he still relies on his athleticism to make plays. Whatever the reason, it does cause some concern.

Williams may end up being the first defensive player selected in April if he declares. His upside is that tremendous. He is not as good a prospect as Julius Peppers was, because along with all his talent, Peppers dominated games too. But, the ability is there. If he declares, Mario is a first round lock, and the sky is the limit for how high he goes, and how good he can be.


Haloti Ngata DT 6’5 338 Oregon Jr.
By: Robert Davis

Haloti Ngata has always been one of the most imposing figures you’ll see on a football field. He was widely regarded as one of the top five players in the entire country coming out of high school. He gave glimpses of his talent as a freshman, but missed the entire following year due to a knee injury. Ngata didn’t regain his previous form until halfway through last year at Oregon.

You cannot dream up a more physically gifted defensive tackle. Ngata is absolutely massive and is immovable from the interior line. He combines his bulk with amazing physical strength. Along with his great size and strength, he has impressive athleticism and agility. Moving up the field, he shows the ability to change direction well and has the closing speed to finish off plays. Oregon even drops him into coverage from his tackle spot. That is unheard of for a 340lber. He must be accounted for at all times. Teams routinely double and triple team him to neutralize his impact.

Ngata has gotten a ton of hype because of his physical gifts, but he still needs some more consistency on the field. At times, he thinks his raw strength is enough to dominate, and that will not work at the next level. He injured his knee in 2003, and even though he appears to be back at full strength, it will be something that is looked into.

On his talent alone, Ngata is going to be a high draft pick. Teams will drool over his physical ability in workouts. Whether he leaves this year or stays for his final season then enters the league, he is going to impress on the post season circuit.