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Old 09-17-2007, 07:29 AM  
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Juice Fasting for 30 days?

Anyone ever try it? Four of my friends have done it and lost about 30lbs each. But for some reason I am not sold on it. Any help?
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:45 PM   #76
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Can we get Cliff notes on that article Silock?
Sure: Soy isn't bad for you in moderate amounts. Just like anything else, it contains things that can be harmful for you if taken in large amounts.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:48 PM   #77
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Yeah. Thats the way it is with a lot of products.

Use it but don't be dumb about it. Use common sense.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:53 PM   #78
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I have no idea who John Robbins or for that matter who Sally Fallon and Mary Enig are.

What I do know is that EVERY naturopathic physician I have ever met said it's garbage and to avoid it. I have also listed who Dr. Bernd Friedlander and gave you his background and the article I posted is obviously Dr. Joseph Mercola. I also know there is an absolute ton of money currently being made by the soy industry and they have invested a lot in putting out the disinformation out there. I also know that the Doctors I am talking to stand nothing to gain by telling me to avoid soy.

Obviously you feel telling people to supplement with it is a good thing. Knock yourself out and enjoy your soy.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:54 PM   #79
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Damnit. My protein bars contain soy.

Keep it up and you won't have to leave the house.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:02 PM   #80
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I have no idea who John Robbins or for that matter who Sally Fallon and Mary Enig are.

What I do know is that EVERY naturopathic physician I have ever met said it's garbage and to avoid it. I have also listed who Dr. Bernd Friedlander and gave you his background and the article I posted is obviously Dr. Joseph Mercola. I also know there is an absolute ton of money currently being made by the soy industry and they have invested a lot in putting out the disinformation out there. I also know that the Doctors I am talking to stand nothing to gain by telling me to avoid soy.

Obviously you feel telling people to supplement with it is a good thing. Knock yourself out and enjoy your soy.
Dr Mary Gertrude Enig (born 1931) is a nutritionist and biochemist, researching the nutritional aspects of fats. She is a consultant, clinician, and the director of the Nutritional Sciences Division of Enig Associates, Inc., Silver Spring, Maryland. Dr. Enig, a consultant on nutrition to individuals, industry, and state and federal governments, is a licensed practitioner in Maryland and the District of Columbia. She has served as a Contributing Editor of the scientific journal Clinical Nutrition and a Consulting Editor of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition.

Dr Enig has written peer-reviewed articles for scientific journals, mainly on fats and oils research and nutrient/drug interactions, and is a well-known invited lecturer at scientific meetings and a popular interviewee on TV and radio shows about nutrition.

Trans-fat whistleblower

Enig was an early and articulate critic of the use of trans fatty acids and advocated their inclusion in nutritional labelling [1]. After many years the scientific mainstream is now challenging the food product industry's use of trans-fat-containing partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, and various jurisdictions around the world are now banning the use of trans fats and/or requiring its presence in food to be marked on labels.

She received her PhD in Nutritional Sciences from the University of Maryland, College Park, and is a Fellow of The American College of Nutrition, a member of The American Society for Nutritional Sciences, and President of the Maryland Nutritionists Association.

Sally Fallon is the Founder of the Weston A Price Foundation for Wise Traditions in Food, Farming and the Healing Arts, a nonprofit nutrition education foundation based in Washington, DC, and editor of the Foundation's quarterly magazine. Really, she just helped write the books with Dr. Enig.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:08 PM   #81
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Dr Mary Gertrude Enig (born 1931) is a nutritionist and biochemist, researching the nutritional aspects of fats. She is a consultant, clinician, and the director of the Nutritional Sciences Division of Enig Associates, Inc., Silver Spring, Maryland. Dr. Enig, a consultant on nutrition to individuals, industry, and state and federal governments, is a licensed practitioner in Maryland and the District of Columbia. She has served as a Contributing Editor of the scientific journal Clinical Nutrition and a Consulting Editor of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition.

Dr Enig has written peer-reviewed articles for scientific journals, mainly on fats and oils research and nutrient/drug interactions, and is a well-known invited lecturer at scientific meetings and a popular interviewee on TV and radio shows about nutrition.

Trans-fat whistleblower

Enig was an early and articulate critic of the use of trans fatty acids and advocated their inclusion in nutritional labelling [1]. After many years the scientific mainstream is now challenging the food product industry's use of trans-fat-containing partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, and various jurisdictions around the world are now banning the use of trans fats and/or requiring its presence in food to be marked on labels.

She received her PhD in Nutritional Sciences from the University of Maryland, College Park, and is a Fellow of The American College of Nutrition, a member of The American Society for Nutritional Sciences, and President of the Maryland Nutritionists Association.

Sally Fallon is the Founder of the Weston A Price Foundation for Wise Traditions in Food, Farming and the Healing Arts, a nonprofit nutrition education foundation based in Washington, DC, and editor of the Foundation's quarterly magazine. Really, she just helped write the books with Dr. Enig.
Great so the Doctors have credentials who think soy is bad in what you posted, so who is the clown dogging them and what are his?

Seriously, what is it with soy and why would even want to supplement with it?
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:19 PM   #82
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Soy is just plain wrong. Argument over.
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:20 AM   #83
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