Football Vick Found Dog fighting to be Funny - Page 9

Fairplay · 11-22-2008, 04:31 AM

Hes a sick man.

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USDA: Vick found dogfighting 'funny to watch'
Report details QB placing pets in ring vs. pit pulls, failing polygraph test

RICHMOND, Va. - Michael Vick put family pets in rings with pit bulls and thought it was funny watching the trained killers injure or kill the helpless dogs, a witness told federal investigators during the dogfighting investigation that brought Vick down.

In a 17-page report filed Aug. 28, 2008, by case agent James Knorr of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and released Friday under the Freedom of Information Act, a person identified as confidential witness No. 1 said Vick placed pets in the ring against pit bulls owned by “Bad Newz Kennels” at least twice and watched as the pit bulls “caused major injuries.”

The witness said Vick and co-defendants Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips “thought it was funny to watch the pit bull dogs belonging to Bad Newz Kennels injure or kill the other dogs.”

Vick was sentenced to 23 months in prison in Dec. 2007, and is due to be released from the federal prison at Leavenworth, Kan., on July 20, 2009. He returned to Virginia on Thursday and is being held in Hopewell pending his appearance in Surry County Circuit Court on Tuesday, where he is expected to plead guilty to two felony charges but receive a suspended sentence.

The report, which has some names and other information redacted to protect some of the parties involved, also details the killing of several dogs at property Vick owned on Moonlight Road in Surry County in mid-April 2007, just days before the first search warrant was executed on the property, turning a drug investigation into the one that sent Vick to prison.

It says Vick was administered a polygraph test by the FBI in October 2007 and denied taking part in the killing of dogs in mid-April. When told he had failed that part of the test, Vick recanted his story and admitted to helping hang six to eight underperforming dogs.

The former Atlanta Falcons quarterback, once the highest paid player in the NFL, has been suspended indefinitely by the league and his football future is uncertain. He’s also in the midst of bankruptcy proceedings with $16 million in assets and $20.4 million in liabilities.

Peace, who also was convicted in the case, said there were times he suggested that dogs unwilling to fight be given away, but that Vick said “they got to go,” meaning be killed.

The dogs were killed by shooting, hanging, electrocution and drowning, and in at least one instance, according to one of the witnesses, when Vick and Phillips killed a red pit bull by “slamming it to the ground several times before it died, breaking the dog’s back or neck.”

When he finally admitted to his role in the dogfighting operation, Vick also said he purchased his first pull bull, named “Champagne,” while a student at Virginia Tech in 1999. The dog was never used in fights, but was bred with other dogs, according to the report.

Champagne was among the 53 pit bulls seized from the home in a raid in

Brock · 11-24-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

the man did the crime, did the time, why cant he earn a living doing what he does?

He can, in Canada.

DJJasonp · 11-24-2008, 11:53 PM

Anyone who tortures animals (domesticated at that)...have no respect for life in any form - and truly dont deserve to be treated with simple human rights.

If this MF'er (Vick) didnt have a gift from god of unreal athletic ability....what are the vegas odds on this ultimate douchebag staying out of legal trouble of any kind?? Oh yeah, that's right....his brother, the not as talented brother in the Vick clan.....gave us a great example of what that outcome would be.

Bottom line - he's a dirtbag. If it wasnt dog fighting, it would have been something else.

And for any douche on this board who would "kill a dog before they'd kill Michael Vick.."... what a horrible mistake....a two-legged, blind dog has more to offer our society than Michael Vick does.

JOhn · 11-25-2008, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

He's free to earn a living. Its just that his bad life choices have limited his options.

Bullsh*t!
Society limits his options.

Though I think what he did is despicable, and vile. He will have done his time, and should be free to do what he wish's.

DJ's left nut · 11-25-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JOhn

Bullsh*t!
Society limits his options.

Though I think what he did is despicable, and vile. He will have done his time, and should be free to do what he wish's.

He is absolutely free to do what he wishes. And society is free to shun him for what he's done.

It's the market that will punish him. Owners know their fans will revolt if he is signed. Vick is legally allowed to continue to pursue his career, but the decisions he's made will make him un-hireable. Jeffrey Skilling could serve his time but I wouldn't be hiring him to manage my company's books anytime soon.

Then again, that was already said. I'm thinking some are just to thick to absorb it.

Duck Dog · 11-25-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

It's a DOG. An animal that he owned. He did not steal someone's animal and kill it. We should put farmers in jail for two years when they blow the head off of a kind friendly little calf and then you go and eat it. I honestly don't know what at the difference is. You can't pick and chose what animals you can own and kill just because you have an emotional connection to them. It's simply not logical.

Somewhere OJ is sitting around watching Tv saying man this Vick guy got fucked.

Are you ****ing stupid, sick or both?

Micjones · 11-25-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That's irrelevant. Ability to "reason" is not determinant of life's worth.

It's irrelevant?

Having the ability to reason bestows human beings with the opportunity to assume responsibility for their lives and have a positive effect on the world.

Surely that's relevant?

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If you tell me that I've got to kill Mike Vick or a stray dog, I'll kill Vick 108 times out of 10.

You'd feel more comfortable putting a human being to death than a stray dog?
And Michael Vick is sick?

ChiefsOne · 11-25-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

It's a DOG. An animal that he owned. He did not steal someone's animal and kill it. We should put farmers in jail for two years when they blow the head off of a kind friendly little calf and then you go and eat it. I honestly don't know what at the difference is. You can't pick and chose what animals you can own and kill just because you have an emotional connection to them. It's simply not logical.

Somewhere OJ is sitting around watching Tv saying man this Vick guy got fucked.

Hey reerun did you miss the part about him putting family pets in the ring! Cows are made for eating, dogs not so much, so your logic is a little flawed.

ChiefsOne · 11-25-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

I think you all should join Peta.

So what you are telling me, is if a farmer electrocutes a pig with malicious intent...lets just say he enjoys doing this sort of thing....it would be the same thing? An animal is an animal. Doesn't matter what it is. If you think what Mike Vick did was so horrible and you are one of those people saying he is such a horrible sick person that is fine, but I would expect you to be a vegetarian or an animal rights activist who is a strong proponent to end all animal suffering of all kind.

Not even in the same category. Don't even act like hunting and doing this BS is anywhere close. I hunt and would imagine that everyone else can see the difference. Have you ever wounded a deer by hitting it in the back or leg? Do you enjoy seeing it hobble around, do you laugh at it trying to get away or do you try to put it out of it misery ASAP? You trying to compare the two are asinine.

Fairplay · 11-25-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

It's irrelevant?
Having the ability to reason bestows human beings with the opportunity to assume responsibility for their lives and have a positive effect on the world.

Surely that's relevant?

You'd feel more comfortable putting a human being to death than a stray dog?
And Michael Vick is sick?

Is the law relevant? Agreed then.

He broke the law pure and simple.

Case closed.

CoMoChief · 11-25-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsOne

Not even in the same category. Don't even act like hunting and doing this BS is anywhere close. I hunt and would imagine that everyone else can see the difference. Have you ever wounded a deer by hitting it in the back or leg? Do you enjoy seeing it hobble around, do you laugh at it trying to get away or do you try to put it out of it misery ASAP? You trying to compare the two are asinine.

Very true...I do the same thing to stray cats, if I don't shoot them in the head, if I get a limb or something, I just walk up and snap their necks.

Micjones · 11-25-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

Is the law relevant? Agreed then.

He broke the law pure and simple.

Case closed.

And I make no bones about that fact, but this discussion has been about morality not legalities.

11-22-2008, 04:31 AM
Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	Vick Found Dog fighting to be Funny Hes a sick man. .... USDA: Vick found dogfighting 'funny to watch' Report details QB placing pets in ring vs. pit pulls, failing polygraph test RICHMOND, Va. - Michael Vick put family pets in rings with pit bulls and thought it was funny watching the trained killers injure or kill the helpless dogs, a witness told federal investigators during the dogfighting investigation that brought Vick down. In a 17-page report filed Aug. 28, 2008, by case agent James Knorr of the U.S. Department of Agriculture and released Friday under the Freedom of Information Act, a person identified as confidential witness No. 1 said Vick placed pets in the ring against pit bulls owned by “Bad Newz Kennels” at least twice and watched as the pit bulls “caused major injuries.” The witness said Vick and co-defendants Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips “thought it was funny to watch the pit bull dogs belonging to Bad Newz Kennels injure or kill the other dogs.” Vick was sentenced to 23 months in prison in Dec. 2007, and is due to be released from the federal prison at Leavenworth, Kan., on July 20, 2009. He returned to Virginia on Thursday and is being held in Hopewell pending his appearance in Surry County Circuit Court on Tuesday, where he is expected to plead guilty to two felony charges but receive a suspended sentence. The report, which has some names and other information redacted to protect some of the parties involved, also details the killing of several dogs at property Vick owned on Moonlight Road in Surry County in mid-April 2007, just days before the first search warrant was executed on the property, turning a drug investigation into the one that sent Vick to prison. It says Vick was administered a polygraph test by the FBI in October 2007 and denied taking part in the killing of dogs in mid-April. When told he had failed that part of the test, Vick recanted his story and admitted to helping hang six to eight underperforming dogs. The former Atlanta Falcons quarterback, once the highest paid player in the NFL, has been suspended indefinitely by the league and his football future is uncertain. He’s also in the midst of bankruptcy proceedings with $16 million in assets and $20.4 million in liabilities. Peace, who also was convicted in the case, said there were times he suggested that dogs unwilling to fight be given away, but that Vick said “they got to go,” meaning be killed. The dogs were killed by shooting, hanging, electrocution and drowning, and in at least one instance, according to one of the witnesses, when Vick and Phillips killed a red pit bull by “slamming it to the ground several times before it died, breaking the dog’s back or neck.” When he finally admitted to his role in the dogfighting operation, Vick also said he purchased his first pull bull, named “Champagne,” while a student at Virginia Tech in 1999. The dog was never used in fights, but was bred with other dogs, according to the report. Champagne was among the 53 pit bulls seized from the home in a raid in
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DJJasonp My work speaks for itself!!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $1675200	Anyone who tortures animals (domesticated at that)...have no respect for life in any form - and truly dont deserve to be treated with simple human rights. If this MF'er (Vick) didnt have a gift from god of unreal athletic ability....what are the vegas odds on this ultimate douchebag staying out of legal trouble of any kind?? Oh yeah, that's right....his brother, the not as talented brother in the Vick clan.....gave us a great example of what that outcome would be. Bottom line - he's a dirtbag. If it wasnt dog fighting, it would have been something else. And for any douche on this board who would "kill a dog before they'd kill Michael Vick.."... what a horrible mistake....a two-legged, blind dog has more to offer our society than Michael Vick does. __________________ Its easier to fool a man, than to convince a man he's been fooled.
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