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Over-Head · 08:13 PM

Perhaps it was RJ's post that got me thinking.
Perhaps it ws the phone call I got from my nan on Friday.
Either way, I made a huge descission this weekend, (after crying my eyes out through most of it) to make a dreadfull mistake somehow change.

A lot of the oldtimers know there are a few of us "Ex-JW's" on this board.
We don't talk about it much, if at all. There are reasons.
Some of us have some still very bad and hatfull memories, some just cant be bothered as they have "since gotten on with life"
And if we do talk about it, it's mostly behind the sceans in pm

3 years ago my parents and I had our last falling out.
Things were said.
Having been a 3rd generation JW I knew where it was coming from.
I knew why is was happening.
I had left , and converted Catholic for the love a woman who rescued me from a Booz / pill dependency.
Now my parents were faced with a moral delima.
Thier teaching, or thier child.
As what I had done, made me an "apostate" to the WTSB (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) or JW's as their known, and the "most horrible thing in "their" religions eyes.

A few months ago, I found out through my grandmother who I inatially kept in contact with just to piss of my mother who never had any time for her step mother that dad had gotten hurt.
At the time, my mind set was "if I have to be thier son on thier terms, then they can be my parents on mine!" I couldn't care less.

Dad had gotten a hernia.
So what, now he and taht woman who turned their back on me can enjoy sharing some quality time together screaming and yelling.

After some ex-ray's, prostate cancer was found.
I said , oh well I may not like the man much right now, but I didn't want this to happen.

I've tried pretending for 3 years I don't care.
I've thought of every hatfull thing done to me by my family, and let it consume me.
Hating the fact my Grandmother (mom's side) let those 2 bible thumping fools into their house back in 1946.
Hating the fact I was hidden and kept from all family that wern't JW's. Hated having my childhood stolen from me.
Etc, etc, etc.

Anyway, this friday as allways I called my nan.
Usually she's say's "your fathers not well"
This week she said "your fathers not good"
Then told me my mother found out last monday she has a lump in her right lung the size of a walnut,and one in her left the size of an egg.
BOTH cancer.

So here's 2 people, alone, dieing of cancer.

Yesterday I sent an express mail to my dad.
With a very long letter, and every lose pic I could find of my son.
I told him I didn't want my son to NOT have the pic I always wanted.
Me, my dad, and my Grandfather.

UI'm sitting here wondering if he will accecpt teh package.
nan told me that even if my mother won't speak to me, my dad would.
I hope so.
I really miss my dad, and want him to meet my son.
Mom's a different story, and I'll handel it as it comes.
I'm heading home on teh 27th wether or not dad responds.
He's tried mailing me something twice. I refused it at teh post office both times.

I'm sitting here now tring not to break down and cry, (not doing a good job of it I might add,) checking teh UPS site every 5 mins to see if he signs for it.
I hope so,
I hope he gives a very stupid child one more chance to say he was sorrry, and try to make up some lost time.

This weekend I descided it's time for all the anger, hate, bitterness, hartach and seperation the WTSB has caused and bring it to end with in our family.
No one deserves to die alone, feeling their kids don't want them.

Now I can only see what tomorrow brings.

If there's any of you out there, who have a family member your not speaking to for some reason.
MAKE IT RIGHT
It doesn't matter why, but do what you have to.
I'm stupid for letting it take 3 years to figure this shit out, but at least I did.

For the first time in 15 years I learned something else.
I no longer hate the JW's, I pitty them.

Part 2:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=198083

InChiefsHeaven · 12-09-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

People most definitely have done horrible acts in the name of God, but in all do respect, with my experience in working around the JW's, if there is any Christian religion that can back their teachings and beliefs with the bible, it is the JW's. They may seem to be a little naive about things in the world around them but they sure do know their bible stuff.

Um...since this is not a bash the Witness thread, I'll let that go, except to say...you are wrong.

...but as I recall, you and I have been down this road before.

vailpass · 12-09-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Groves

Whenever embarking on a course of action with dubious legality, you can always get a sobering sense of reality by placing "Well, you see your Honor...", or "Well, it's like this Officer..." before statements of your reasoning for such actions.

Do they need drywallers in prison?

It's his brother. There are special considerations given for brother-to-brother dukes.

C-Mac · 12-09-2008, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Um...since this is not a bash the Witness thread, I'll let that go, except to say...you are wrong.

...but as I recall, you and I have been down this road before.

All I was saying is that they can back their beliefs with the bible.
I always find its wise let the reader discern who's right or wrong.

vailpass · 12-09-2008, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Mac

All I was saying is that they can back their beliefs with the bible.
I always find its wise let the reader discern who's right or wrong.

Really? That heavenly quota part has you convinced or are you just referring to the behavioral gudiance parts?

Scientologists can back their beliefs with a series of writings too however if you want to know how it ends it is gonna' cost ya'! Apparently it is worth it though as it has transformed Tom Cruise into a doctor, psychiatrist and superhero all without the benefit of a day of formal education.

StcChief · 12-09-2008, 11:04 AM

JW's stay off my door step.

Inspector · 12-09-2008, 01:16 PM

Don't they make jams and jellies?

CoMoChief · 12-09-2008, 01:18 PM

This should go into the DC/Holy thread.

El Jefe · 12-09-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

People do the damnedest things in the name of God. You and I both know their actions have nothing to do with our God and everything to do with the ignorance of man. Their teachings are incredibly flawed and aren't anywhere to be found in my bible at all.

I'm glad you're able be the bigger person.

QFT. Couldn't of said it any better.

LiL stumppy · 12-09-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Mac

All I was saying is that they can back their beliefs with the bible.
I always find its wise let the reader discern who's right or wrong.

Yup, they can more than many other religions I deal with (friends)

12-09-2008, 07:09 AM
Over-Head Boom, Boom , Crash Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In my shed Casino cash: $9995760	Making it right Perhaps it was RJ's post that got me thinking. Perhaps it ws the phone call I got from my nan on Friday. Either way, I made a huge descission this weekend, (after crying my eyes out through most of it) to make a dreadfull mistake somehow change. A lot of the oldtimers know there are a few of us "Ex-JW's" on this board. We don't talk about it much, if at all. There are reasons. Some of us have some still very bad and hatfull memories, some just cant be bothered as they have "since gotten on with life" And if we do talk about it, it's mostly behind the sceans in pm 3 years ago my parents and I had our last falling out. Things were said. Having been a 3rd generation JW I knew where it was coming from. I knew why is was happening. I had left , and converted Catholic for the love a woman who rescued me from a Booz / pill dependency. Now my parents were faced with a moral delima. Thier teaching, or thier child. As what I had done, made me an "apostate" to the WTSB (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) or JW's as their known, and the "most horrible thing in "their" religions eyes. A few months ago, I found out through my grandmother who I inatially kept in contact with just to piss of my mother who never had any time for her step mother that dad had gotten hurt. At the time, my mind set was "if I have to be thier son on thier terms, then they can be my parents on mine!" I couldn't care less. Dad had gotten a hernia. So what, now he and taht woman who turned their back on me can enjoy sharing some quality time together screaming and yelling. After some ex-ray's, prostate cancer was found. I said , oh well I may not like the man much right now, but I didn't want this to happen. I've tried pretending for 3 years I don't care. I've thought of every hatfull thing done to me by my family, and let it consume me. Hating the fact my Grandmother (mom's side) let those 2 bible thumping fools into their house back in 1946. Hating the fact I was hidden and kept from all family that wern't JW's. Hated having my childhood stolen from me. Etc, etc, etc. Anyway, this friday as allways I called my nan. Usually she's say's "your fathers not well" This week she said "your fathers not good" Then told me my mother found out last monday she has a lump in her right lung the size of a walnut,and one in her left the size of an egg. BOTH cancer. So here's 2 people, alone, dieing of cancer. Yesterday I sent an express mail to my dad. With a very long letter, and every lose pic I could find of my son. I told him I didn't want my son to NOT have the pic I always wanted. Me, my dad, and my Grandfather. UI'm sitting here wondering if he will accecpt teh package. nan told me that even if my mother won't speak to me, my dad would. I hope so. I really miss my dad, and want him to meet my son. Mom's a different story, and I'll handel it as it comes. I'm heading home on teh 27th wether or not dad responds. He's tried mailing me something twice. I refused it at teh post office both times. I'm sitting here now tring not to break down and cry, (not doing a good job of it I might add,) checking teh UPS site every 5 mins to see if he signs for it. I hope so, I hope he gives a very stupid child one more chance to say he was sorrry, and try to make up some lost time. This weekend I descided it's time for all the anger, hate, bitterness, hartach and seperation the WTSB has caused and bring it to end with in our family. No one deserves to die alone, feeling their kids don't want them. Now I can only see what tomorrow brings. If there's any of you out there, who have a family member your not speaking to for some reason. MAKE IT RIGHT It doesn't matter why, but do what you have to. I'm stupid for letting it take 3 years to figure this shit out, but at least I did. For the first time in 15 years I learned something else. I no longer hate the JW's, I pitty them. Part 2: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=198083 Last edited by Over-Head; 12-09-2008 at 08:13 PM..
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