Former Browns GM Phil Savage's nuggets of opinion on the Draft. - Page 3

Direckshun · 01-26-2009, 10:36 AM

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I think, with no games this weekend, that I'll have Phil Savage, the former Browns' general manager who scouted all the practices at the Senior Bowl in Mobile last week, check in with his thoughts on the movers and shakers among the prospects there:

a. "The senior quarterback group is not strong. Matt Stafford and Mark Sanchez [juniors from Georgia and USC, respectively] must have known if they came out, they'd go high ... I liked the arm of Rhett Bomar, the Sam Houston State quarterback. He got a lot of exposure here and kept himself alive.''

b. "Alex Mack, the center from Cal, distanced himself from the pack at his position. He probably got himself into late in the first round.''

c. "Brian Cushing and Rey Maualuga get the attention as USC linebackers, and they're good. But Clay Matthews Jr. weighed in three pounds heavier than Cushing and showed he can play inside or outside linebacker. He went from being a mid-round guy in the fall to late in the first or the second round. He was a 175-pound kid in high school. He's 246 and instinctive, just like his dad.'' (Clay Matthews Sr. played 19 NFL seasons in Cleveland and Atlanta, and his 278 games played are third-most in history.)

d. "Cushing looks like a pro, an outside 'backer, kind of like a Kevin Greene.''

e. "Brian Robiskie, the Ohio State wide receiver, has had his speed questioned, but you can tell this is a kid who'd been to NFL camps and worked with his dad, because in the one-on-ones, he was very prepared and competitive. He's probably still a mid-round pick, but he's a good third-receiver type, a possession type who will make some plays with his size and his hands.''

f. "Rey Maualuga is a first- and second-down run defender. Not sure if he's going to be a great third-down player.''

g. "Pat White's been at the center of a lot of debate about whether he can play quarterback in the NFL. It's probably a longshot at 6-foot and 190, but who knows? I'd love to see him play that Wildcat spot. We had Josh Cribbs do it in Cleveland because he could throw the ball. I would think Pat White's a receiver, probably, but he can be a third quarterback type and play the Wildcat. He adds a dimension to the Wildcat because he can throw.''

h. "Michael Oher, the tackle from Ole Miss, is shrouded in mystery. He's the kid [Michael Lewis] wrote the book on, who kind of went from poverty to a suburban life because of football. He had a solid week, put himself in position to be a top 10 pick. He's 6-5, 325, with long arms. He's athletic, and he should be able to play left tackle. The great thing about taking a left tackle is if he doesn't pan out, he'll be able to be a right tackle.''

i. "The best three players I saw, maybe, were Cushing, Oher and Brandon Pettigrew, a tight end from Oklahoma State who is probably the most complete tight end in the country. Very impressed with him. He could go at the bottom of the first round.''

j. "Not much of a surprise, but 46 juniors came out, and I've seen most of them now, and I think it could potentially be the biggest draft for juniors ever. There will be something between 12 and 20 juniors picked in the first round.''

k. "First pick in the draft? If it's Detroit, and Jim Schwartz is talking about Bobby Layne, and the offensive coordinator is Scott Linehan, who wants a big, strong-thrower, I'd say the big strong QB with a strong arm would be the pick. Matthew Stafford is big and throws the ball so well. It's a pretty easy guess.''

Any guesses as to how great the Browns' drafting had been under Savage?

teedubya · 01-26-2009, 10:22 PM

I want Chase Daniel..... well, his head on a pike! mw hah aha ahah

**The Franchise** · 01-26-2009, 10:23 PM

Jason Brown would be the #1 guy that I would go after in FA.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-26-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Jason Brown would be the #1 guy that I would go after in FA.

Me too.

He's really the only guy that excites me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-26-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No flaming.

I doubt both Jacobs and Ward hit the market, and I also doubt that Vilma or Evans hit the market.

We're in complete agreement on Jason Brown, and we couldn't be farther apart on Shaun McDonald. As someone who saw quite a bit of him in STL, I can't fathom him ever being a #2.

JMO.

I haven't seen much of MacDonald. All I know is that when I have seen him, he's looked good. And he had 79 catches in 2007 on a horrible team. I don't think he's a long-term solution at #2 but with the right contract, he could slide into the #3 spot, once a #2 was drafted and developed.

He's definitely a 50 catch per season guy and the Chiefs are in desperate need of a guy that can get at least that many opposite Bowe. But I'll trust your evaluation above mine, not having seen him but a handful of times.

I have a feeling that the Giants won't be able to keep both. One of those guys will get a contract that the Giants won't match. But if that's the case, we're talking extremely slim-pickens come the end of February.

**The Franchise** · 01-27-2009, 08:44 AM

I have a feeling that Brandon Jacobs is going to want a HUGE contract.

ChiefsCountry · 01-27-2009, 02:30 PM

The problem with Ward is that he is the same age as LJ.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-27-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The problem with Ward is that he is the same age as LJ.

He's more than a year younger and he's only had 342 carries in 5 seasons. He should be good for at least 2 more years.

I wouldn't break the bank for the guy but with LJ conceivably traded, the Chiefs will need an "every down" back and they may not have not draft choices available to fill that need.

Mosbonian · 01-28-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I was half joking with that response but I guess you weren't around much during the season.

There were several people that wanted Chase Daniel in the first round.

Seriously.

I'd like to see all the people who did....because I don't remember any. Even the most diehard Tiger fan knows that, at best, the only way Daniel's career was going any further is if he took it North to Canada.

Someone in the NFL may take a flyer on him, but I wouldn't bet it would be anywhere but in the very late rounds.

mmaddog
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**DaKCMan AP** · 01-28-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mmaddog

I'd like to see all the people who did....because I don't remember any. Even the most diehard Tiger fan knows that, at best, the only way Daniel's career was going any further is if he took it North to Canada.

Someone in the NFL may take a flyer on him, but I wouldn't bet it would be anywhere but in the very late rounds.

mmaddog
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http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...2&postcount=31

Wanting Daniel in the 2nd round:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...7&postcount=45

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...0&postcount=13

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...0&postcount=16

Chiefnj2 · 01-28-2009, 10:52 AM

You searched back to 2006 to find someone who thought he might be a 1st round caliber QB? Maybe Rausch's opinion changed over the last three years.

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-28-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You searched back to 2006 to find someone who thought he might be a 1st round caliber QB? Maybe Rausch's opinion changed over the last three years.

It was a 2-min quick search. Some want him in the 2nd round going back to October. That's, IMO, just as disturbing as thinking he's a 1st rounder.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-28-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...2&postcount=31

Wanting Daniel in the 2nd round:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...7&postcount=45

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...0&postcount=13

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...0&postcount=16

Thank you.

No offense to mmaddog but I think that most people aren't paying as much attention to the Chase Daniel/Chase Coffman stuff that's gone around the past few seasons.

Frankie · 01-28-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Damn.......I guess I can hope for this::

1st round - Mark Sanchez
2nd round - Alex Mack
3rd round - Clay Matthews Jr.

I can live with that.

Frankie · 01-28-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

You're gonna have to pick between Mack and Mathews with that 2nd. Tough choice, but I think I'd take Matthews if we are indeed moving to the 3-4. Unless we could package LJ and Tony to the same team or add in a pick with one of them and get back into the early 2nd.

Don't trade Tony.

bigdreams1 · 01-28-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Damn.......I guess I can hope for this::

1st round - Mark Sanchez
2nd round - Alex Mack
3rd round - Clay Matthews Jr.

This would be amazing

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