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keg in kc · 06-14-2009, 12:45 PM

Holy crap.

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48-year old Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia in 10 seconds in Birmingham, AL, thus a washed up former boxing champion in fact knocked out a two-time UFC champion in an MMA rules match. Sylvia threw a kick and Mercer countered with a right hand that knocked Sylvia out.

Mecca · 06-14-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by macdawg

Mercer also lost to a streetfighter with about 6 months of MMA training in Kimbo Slice.

Huge props to a 48 year old Mercer for getting out there and beating a Sylvia. I just think at his age he isn't going to have great takedown/submission defense that you need to consistently beat top guys.

The absolute hate people have for Kimbo is funny to me considering how shitty UFC's heavyweight division is.

macdawg · 06-14-2009, 05:19 PM

There are several rules that tip UFC fights in the strikers favor. Fans want to see striking, so they do standups when guys are inactive on the ground, break up clinches that might eventually lead to takedowns, and installed 5 minute rounds which also cause standups. If the guys were wearing shirts/kimono's takedowns are easier, add in the greasing scandals and you can imagine how hard it would be to do a takedown on a greased fighter. First thing a boxer usually needs to do is change their stance a little though, a traditional boxing stance leaves you pretty vulnerable to leg kicks.

Good takedown defense + ability to get to your feet when taken down + world class striking = championship formula for the street or cage.

BigVE · 06-14-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by macdawg

There are several rules that tip UFC fights in the strikers favor. Fans want to see striking, so they do standups when guys are inactive on the ground, break up clinches that might eventually lead to takedowns, and installed 5 minute rounds which also cause standups. If the guys were wearing shirts/kimono's takedowns are easier, add in the greasing scandals and you can imagine how hard it would be to do a takedown on a greased fighter. First thing a boxer usually needs to do is change their stance a little though, a traditional boxing stance leaves you pretty vulnerable to leg kicks.

Good takedown defense + ability to get to your feet when taken down + world class striking = championship formula for the street or cage.

It worked for Chuck Liddell for a while.

**KcMizzou** · 06-14-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The absolute hate people have for Kimbo is funny to me considering how shitty UFC's heavyweight division is.

Kimbo's a contestant on the next season of TUF. Coaches are Rashad and Rampage.

It'll be interesting to see how he does.

burt · 06-15-2009, 08:40 AM

Those Mercer's are all a tough lot!!!! 'Specially that "Fat Fingers" guy!

Brock · 06-15-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The absolute hate people have for Kimbo is funny to me considering how shitty UFC's heavyweight division is.

let me know when he's fought someone other than a tomato can.

06-14-2009, 05:19 PM	#17
macdawg Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	There are several rules that tip UFC fights in the strikers favor. Fans want to see striking, so they do standups when guys are inactive on the ground, break up clinches that might eventually lead to takedowns, and installed 5 minute rounds which also cause standups. If the guys were wearing shirts/kimono's takedowns are easier, add in the greasing scandals and you can imagine how hard it would be to do a takedown on a greased fighter. First thing a boxer usually needs to do is change their stance a little though, a traditional boxing stance leaves you pretty vulnerable to leg kicks. Good takedown defense + ability to get to your feet when taken down + world class striking = championship formula for the street or cage.
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