Music The Importance of 432hz Music - Page 2

teedubya · 07-16-2010, 01:41 PM

Just discovered this during the last week, and find it infinitely interesting.

In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. This in spite of that Professor Dussaut from the Paris Conservatory wrote a referendum that was signed by 23,000 French musicians who all were for the preservation of the A= 432Hz. Freedom of choice in bringing back the frequency of the earth is what it's all about today.

** 432Hz quality **

Music on a basis tone of A=432Hz is more transparent, more marked, clearer, gives an obvious musical picture and the Overtones and undertones moves more freely and can multiply themselves more. Music based on 440Hz represents emotions and locks up the head. By lowering the pitch 440Hz - 8Hz to 432Hz, the music changes. Which first was painful to the ear changes into a beautiful, warm music whereby relaxation is natural. Overtones are decisive for the sound, this holds for instruments as well as the human voice. The piano tuned in A= 440Hz creates an artificial clarity and strengthens the high stress levels of today. The instruments on which Mozart and Verdi composed their masterpieces were in 432Hz -is the same as C=256Hz- pitched. The original Stadivarius violin was developed to resonate at 432Hz.

http://www.omega432.com/music.html

From Wikipedia...

The hegemonic ambitions of the Propaganda Ministry were shown by the divisions Goebbels soon established: press, radio, film, theater, music, literature, and publishing.

In each of these, a Reichskammer (Reich Chamber) was established, co-opting leading figures from the field (usually not known Nazis) to head each Chamber, and requiring them to supervise the purge of Jews, socialists and liberals, as well as practitioners of "degenerate" art forms such as abstract art and atonal music.[33]

The respected composer Richard Strauss, for example, became head of the Reich Music Chamber. Goebbels’ orders were backed by the threat of force. The many prominent Jews in the arts and the mass media emigrated in large numbers rather than risk the fists of the SA and the gates of the concentration camp, as did many socialists and liberals. Some non-Jewish anti-Nazis with good connections or international reputations survived until the mid-1930s, but most were forced out sooner or later.

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Listen to the different versions, and the 432hz seems to harmonize better.

Has anyone else done any research on this?

FranciscoNET · 08-31-2010, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Did we just get trolled?

No, I am not trolling any one, this is a genuine question. I am not an expert musician, I am confused here at something that is very new to me and I have not seen an answer to my question in the entire google search engine I just killed my self searching for, that is why I asked my question (I usually dont ask questions if I can find answers in any website)

What's killing me here is that what is the 432hz vs 417 hz

What I see here is this:

First A=417hz THEN it was brought up to A=432hz THEN it was finally brought up to A=440hz (That's three changes to A=???hz why did all these changes occurred) and based on my current research I have read that A=417hz was used in ancient times for a very long time, so how retuning my songs to A=432hz is going to fix the A=440hz the best way possible? Can I just retune my songs to A=417hz? I am confused on this aspect.....

Since I haven't seen A=432hz in the solgeggio (Do, Ret, Mi.....) sequence, I would like to have an explanation why it is widely suggested to retune songs to A=432hz while I do not see any indications to retune it to A=417hz)

Thats all.

**007** · 08-31-2010, 04:51 AM

I would think the question would be better served in one of the music forums out there as I don't think anyone here will be versed enough in the subject to answer that for you. I know when I was looking into it I found a ton of boards with much more qualified people for this question. Not saying there isn't someone here than can answer it, just that there won't be many.

**AustinChief** · 08-31-2010, 02:07 PM

Ok guys, do your research... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History..._Western_music

This is all a bunch of BS... as a matter of fact... the US adopted 440 as the standard in 1926... I doubt the Nazis had much to do with that...

Truth is, the standards for pitch have varied from country to country and year to year... If a song was recorded in a certain way... it was MEANT to be be heard played back in that way... feel free to change pitch as you please, but know that you aren't hearing what you were meant to hear.

Dayze · 08-31-2010, 02:13 PM

my head hertz after reading that.

**AustinChief** · 08-31-2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranciscoNET

Hi.

I appreciate the OP for bringing the 440HZ issue to question, I have done further research and I have seen many more websites talking about the importance about switching to 432hz which is 8hz less than 440hz.

However, what I fail to understand is that 432hz is not part of the solfeggio scale as shown. Here is the principal solfeggio scale:
396 Hz, (do)
417 Hz, (ret)
528 Hz, (Mi -- yes as in Micracle, the freq. of repairing DNA!)
639 Hz, (Fa)
741 Hz, and (So
852 Hz (La)

Ok, I didn't see 432hz anywhere between 417hz and 528hz.

Based on my understanding on today's 440hz standard, let me repeat the solfeggio based on 440hz standard this time: (all what I have to do is add 22hz -- approximation since I know that 528hz turns to 550hz under the 440hz scale, so I will be using that as my basing point)
418 Hz,
439 Hz,
550 Hz,
661 Hz,
763 Hz, and
874 Hz

ok 439hz there, close enough to 440hz, if I would have added 1 more Hz to every one I would have gotten 551hz on the "MI" scale, but then it would have been 440hz on the "A" scale.

So, if on Winamp I use a plugin called "Cronotron" to change the pitch of my songs in realtime as I listed to them, I would just adjust the pitch by entering "-21" to the pitch box and I would get my 440hz songs resonating to 417hz which IS part of the solgeffio chart, THEN that 550hz - 21hz equals to 529hz which is not a big deal of a difference of 1hz to 528hz and I guess my whole entire chart would be more or less in par with the original solfeggio frequencies if I reduce to -21 cents (hz) as opposed if I reduced it to -8 to reach the so called 432 hz frequency.

Now, lets say IF I reduced it to -8hz to achieve 432hz, then lets see how this would resolve the C=550hz:
550hz - 8hz = 542hz STILL not even close to 528hz the frequency of DNA repair!

So please tell me, why I should use A=432 hz by reducing -8hz and not just A=417hz by reducing -21 hz so that every other frequencies can pretty much match up??

Thanks for any clarifications I might obtain out of this and have a great night to every one!

OMG where did you find this tripe? DNA healing music???

Anyway.. the solfeggio scale is a SCALE it doesn't have set frequencies... you pick a pitch for A and the scale shifts to that.. pick a different pitch for middle C and the scale shifts again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_scale

the idea that some perfect pitch to note frequency exists... is just ridiculous. It's all relative.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-05-2010, 01:13 AM

I prefer Dropped D, 439hz.

You know, Seattle music. Modern Rock. Van Halen, even.

FranciscoNET · 09-06-2010, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief

OMG where did you find this tripe? DNA healing music???

Anyway.. the solfeggio scale is a SCALE it doesn't have set frequencies... you pick a pitch for A and the scale shifts to that.. pick a different pitch for middle C and the scale shifts again...

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the idea that some perfect pitch to note frequency exists... is just ridiculous. It's all relative.

Have you done a basic google search for the term "528hz" if not, I suggest that you open up a new tab in your web brownser, go to google.com and make that search, you will see 95,800 results and 90% of them is talking about DNA repair, you will even stumble across FDA approved doctors and scientists saying that they repair DNA based problems using the frequency of 528 hz in their procedures. So, it looks like 528hz IS a very important number, and MAYBE downloading and installing Audacity and generating a tone at 528hz for 2 minutes or so and listening to it might have a good effect on the listener. You could go into binaural beats as well, etc.

So, just search into the subject, you will notice important people talking about it, its not something that I have invented.

I really like to believe in it because its something good, its at least a good hope that many people have in trying to improve themselves in many ways.

**AustinChief** · 09-06-2010, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranciscoNET

Have you done a basic google search for the term "528hz" if not, I suggest that you open up a new tab in your web brownser, go to google.com and make that search, you will see 95,800 results and 90% of them is talking about DNA repair, you will even stumble across FDA approved doctors and scientists saying that they repair DNA based problems using the frequency of 528 hz in their procedures. So, it looks like 528hz IS a very important number, and MAYBE downloading and installing Audacity and generating a tone at 528hz for 2 minutes or so and listening to it might have a good effect on the listener. You could go into binaural beats as well, etc.

So, just search into the subject, you will notice important people talking about it, its not something that I have invented.

I really like to believe in it because its something good, its at least a good hope that many people have in trying to improve themselves in many ways.

1000s or even millions of people believing in voodoo science doesn't make it valid... I would love for every hopeful, nice, happy thing to be REAL... but they all aren't and propagating false science is NEVER a good thing.

jjjayb · 09-07-2010, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief

1000s or even millions of people believing in voodoo science doesn't make it valid... I would love for every hopeful, nice, happy thing to be REAL... but they all aren't and propagating false science is NEVER a good thing.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=233054

**Buehler445** · 09-07-2010, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranciscoNET

Have you done a basic google search for the term "528hz" if not, I suggest that you open up a new tab in your web brownser, go to google.com and make that search, you will see 95,800 results and 90% of them is talking about DNA repair, you will even stumble across FDA approved doctors and scientists saying that they repair DNA based problems using the frequency of 528 hz in their procedures. So, it looks like 528hz IS a very important number, and MAYBE downloading and installing Audacity and generating a tone at 528hz for 2 minutes or so and listening to it might have a good effect on the listener. You could go into binaural beats as well, etc.

So, just search into the subject, you will notice important people talking about it, its not something that I have invented.

I really like to believe in it because its something good, its at least a good hope that many people have in trying to improve themselves in many ways.

I haven't done any research in it at all, but I'm assuming it's all Fibonacci numbers. They repeat in nature. That doesn't make them magical. Fibonacci figured out his scale while he was studying market behavior.

Just because there is correlation, doesn't necessarily mean that there is some whiz-bang cure all magic in finding the correlation.

Jawshco · 09-07-2010, 11:27 AM

So for the layman of the group... If I were to tune my guitar to 432 tuning my low E string would become which note relative to 440 tuning (i.e. not just as a lower frequency E)?

Dane- Yup! I agree. Drop D rocks. My band plays in both the key of D and dropped D on our guitars. It's great if you don't have a Tenor/Soprano singer, and it just sounds freaking awesome.

07-16-2010, 01:41 PM
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9460002	The Importance of 432hz Music Just discovered this during the last week, and find it infinitely interesting. In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. This in spite of that Professor Dussaut from the Paris Conservatory wrote a referendum that was signed by 23,000 French musicians who all were for the preservation of the A= 432Hz. Freedom of choice in bringing back the frequency of the earth is what it's all about today. 432Hz quality Music on a basis tone of A=432Hz is more transparent, more marked, clearer, gives an obvious musical picture and the Overtones and undertones moves more freely and can multiply themselves more. Music based on 440Hz represents emotions and locks up the head. By lowering the pitch 440Hz - 8Hz to 432Hz, the music changes. Which first was painful to the ear changes into a beautiful, warm music whereby relaxation is natural. Overtones are decisive for the sound, this holds for instruments as well as the human voice. The piano tuned in A= 440Hz creates an artificial clarity and strengthens the high stress levels of today. The instruments on which Mozart and Verdi composed their masterpieces were in 432Hz -is the same as C=256Hz- pitched. The original Stadivarius violin was developed to resonate at 432Hz. http://www.omega432.com/music.html From Wikipedia... The hegemonic ambitions of the Propaganda Ministry were shown by the divisions Goebbels soon established: press, radio, film, theater, music, literature, and publishing. In each of these, a Reichskammer (Reich Chamber) was established, co-opting leading figures from the field (usually not known Nazis) to head each Chamber, and requiring them to supervise the purge of Jews, socialists and liberals, as well as practitioners of "degenerate" art forms such as abstract art and atonal music.[33] The respected composer Richard Strauss, for example, became head of the Reich Music Chamber. Goebbels’ orders were backed by the threat of force. The many prominent Jews in the arts and the mass media emigrated in large numbers rather than risk the fists of the SA and the gates of the concentration camp, as did many socialists and liberals. Some non-Jewish anti-Nazis with good connections or international reputations survived until the mid-1930s, but most were forced out sooner or later. --- Listen to the different versions, and the 432hz seems to harmonize better. Has anyone else done any research on this?
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08-31-2010, 02:07 PM	#18
AustinChief Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $2189112	Ok guys, do your research... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History..._Western_music This is all a bunch of BS... as a matter of fact... the US adopted 440 as the standard in 1926... I doubt the Nazis had much to do with that... Truth is, the standards for pitch have varied from country to country and year to year... If a song was recorded in a certain way... it was MEANT to be be heard played back in that way... feel free to change pitch as you please, but know that you aren't hearing what you were meant to hear.
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08-31-2010, 02:13 PM	#19
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09-07-2010, 11:27 AM	#26
Jawshco Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clovis, CA Casino cash: $10004925	So for the layman of the group... If I were to tune my guitar to 432 tuning my low E string would become which note relative to 440 tuning (i.e. not just as a lower frequency E)? Dane- Yup! I agree. Drop D rocks. My band plays in both the key of D and dropped D on our guitars. It's great if you don't have a Tenor/Soprano singer, and it just sounds freaking awesome.
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