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Old 09-10-2010, 06:54 PM  
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Should the Chiefs have drafted Sedrick Ellis over Dorsey?

Just comparing the stats......seems as though Ellis has been more a force so far than Dorsey.....thoughts?


Ellis:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...rBrFaf8t7.uLYF


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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...rBrFaf8t7.uLYF
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:35 AM   #46
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That was a pick of teams being reeruned, John Henderson was clearly the best DT that year but he got downgrade for "being to tall".
I think there were back issues that scared people along with the height issue.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:49 AM   #47
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I think there were back issues that scared people along with the height issue.
Back isues, plus his senior year productivity dropped.
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:35 AM   #48
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I think I was the only one at the time who wasn't on board with the Dorsey pick at the time

http://m.chiefsplanet.com/showthread...=183824&page=5

If you think about it though there were several reasons for being skeptical:

1. He's from LSU and fat guys from the deep south bust at an EXTREMELY high level.

2. He had already dealt with an unadvertised weight/conditioning problem as an underclassman which got him in the doghouse with the coaching staff.

3. He didn't play the way he was advertised as playing. He was advertised as Warren Sapp and a sack artist but anyone who watched his game film that year could see Dorsey wasn't a penetrator and wasn't asked to play as a penetrator. He was a decent run stopper but undersized for that type of player.

4. The main thing we needed was someone who could pressure the QB to replace Jared Allen.

5. We had spent 2nd and 3rd round picks on DTs the year before and had nothing at defensive end. Tank Tyler was a virtual twin of Dorsey's playing style. The year he and Dorsey played together Tank was the better player.

In the end Dorsey has mainly proved to be a product of false expectations.

For this football team (even under different leadership) to turn around and make the exact same mistake the following year with Tyson Jackson is beyond forgiveable. What were the red flags with T-jack?

1. He's from LSU and fat guys from the deep south bust at an EXTREMELY high level.

2. He didn't play the way he was advertised as playing. He was advertised as a "can't miss" 5 technique but all he'd ever played had been a 4-3 defense end role. 4-3 DEs do not typically switch to down lineman in a 3-4 and evaluating/projecting them as such is something you don't want to gamble a top 5 pick on .

3. The main thing we needed was someone who could clog the middle of the 3-4 defense (BJ Raji anyone?)

5. 3-4 DEs are the easiest spot in a 3-4 to get a serviceable player. We had spent a top 5 pick the year before on defensive end and had NOTHING at nose tackle and nothing at many other positions.

In the end T-jack has too proven to be a product of false expectations.
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Old 09-11-2010, 12:11 PM   #49
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Old 09-11-2010, 01:02 PM   #50
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You don't trade out of that spot. Also, if you have a guy who looks like a franchise LT staring you in the face in the middle of the first round, you take him if you're a rebuilding team.
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:47 PM   #51
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I think I was the only one at the time who wasn't on board with the Dorsey pick at the time

http://m.chiefsplanet.com/showthread...=183824&page=5
Thanks for that link.

Proof that I'm not always negative when it comes to the Chiefs and their drafts.
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That was a pick of teams being reeruned, John Henderson was clearly the best DT that year but he got downgrade for "being to tall".
back injuries too
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