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Old 06-20-2011, 06:55 PM  
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ESPN: Ranking the AFC West defensive linemen
ESPN's Bill Williamson ranks Tyson Jackson at #9 - almost as high as his draft position! Well, sorta kinda....

1. Richard Seymour, Oakland: He is the class of the division. He is aging, but he is still a brilliant player.

2. Glenn Dorsey, Kansas City: He made great strides in 2010, his third NFL season. He had adjusted well to the 3-4 defense and he is the anchor to a young defense.

3. Tommy Kelly, Oakland: Kelly had his best NFL season in 2010 and he pairs very nicely with Seymour. He is tough when he is motivated.

4. Elvis Dumervil, Denver: Dumervil is back to end in a 4-3 after excelling in a 3-4 defense. He struggles against the run, but he is a force as a pass-rusher.

5. Lamarr Houston, Oakland: I really like this player. The second-year player is a potential star.

6. Antonio Garay, San Diego: Garay had a terrific season in 2010. He is a tremendous nose tackle.

7. Luis Castillo, San Diego: Castillo is a solid player, but I’d like to see more impact plays.

8. Matt Shaughnessy, Oakland: He’s another fine young player for Oakland. He has made the most of his opportunities.

9. Tyson Jackson, Kansas City: Jackson has been just so-so. This is a huge season for the No. 3 overall pick of the 2009 draft.

10. Corey Liuget, San Diego: The No. 18 overall pick of the 2011 draft will start at end and he will get a chance to make an immediate impact.

11. Wallace Gilberry, Kansas City: He’s is an underrated player. He can get sacks in bunches.

12. John Henderson, Oakland: He is aging, but he can still help Oakland as a run stuffer.

13. Robert Ayers, Denver: This is a big season for Ayers, the No. 18 pick in 2009. New coach John Fox likes him, so he’ll get a chance to start.

14. Trevor Scott, Oakland: Scott has a chance to be very good. He has natural pass-rushing ability.

15. Ron Edwards, Kansas City: He’s steady. The Chiefs want more help at tackle, but Edwards is OK.

16. Shaun Smith, Kansas City: The Chiefs need to bring him back. He can make an impact.

17. Marcus Thomas, Denver: Denver wants this free agent back.

18. Allen Bailey, Kansas City: The Chiefs are very excited about this third-round pick. He could play right away.

19. Kevin Vickerson, Denver: Denver re-signed him in March.

20. Vaughn Martin, San Diego: It’s time for this project to make a move.

21. Cam Thomas, San Diego: The Chargers still have high hopes for this second-year player.

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Old 06-21-2011, 06:38 PM   #46
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bullshit, I watch every game and he does absolutely nothing. No push, no support, NOTHING. He sucks balls.
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:08 PM   #47
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bullshit, I watch every game and he does absolutely nothing. No push, no support, NOTHING. He sucks balls.

Dorsey didn't put up any stats but I saw great things in him last season. He's a HUGE reason why Hali was so great, not to take anything away from Hali's awesomeness last season, but Dorsey's play was great and allowed Hali to get single blocked and dominate. Dorsey = no stats but he was great. Jackson = no stats and he sucked balls in every way.
69 tackles for a 3-4 DE is pretty outstanding. Dorsey had a terrific statistical season as well as a good season period. But look, I'm not comparing Jackson to Dorsey. I think Dorsey has developed into a very good 3-4 DE. I'm not at all saying Jackson is on that level. I'm saying he's not as bad as everyone wants to say he is.

To the argument that Jackson played so-so... People are so obsessed with a 3-4 DE's ability to drive into the pocket. A 3-4 DE's job in a Romeo scheme is to read and react. He has to read where the play is going and move toward that play and find the right gap to close up. Jackson was doing a much better job of that in 2011 and I think he's going to do a much better job in 2012, if he gets enough practice. Keep in mind that he's not put in a good situation given that his OLB behind him does nothing and he has no help whatsoever in the middle. People obsess over Gilberry's ability to get sacks in nickel situations, nevermind that he got dominated in 1-2 down situations. And people obsess over Smith's ability to get push in the pocket, nevermind that there were just as many times where he was completely stonewalled.

I thought the best rotation last year was Jackson-Smith-Dorsey. If Jackson stays healthy and progresses and you put a real Nose Tackle in between, I don't think Jackson becomes a pro bowler, but he becomes a solid enough starter.
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People get too caught up in jackson's draft position.

Sully was saying the same things a couple of times last year, zilla. And I agree with the two of you
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Bailey is going to outplay Jackson all season. Fans will want Bailey to start, but that won't happen because of the paychecks
With how much PT Smith got last year, that is a pretty dumb arguing point.

If Tyson Jackson comes in the way he did last year before he got hurt, he will have earned the starting LDE spot and be a good player.

I am thinking he makes the biggest jump from 10-11 of any player we have.
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