KU Missouri town calls on KU to drop Jayhawks mascot - Page 8

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 07:31 AM

I thought this was an interesting read....

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/18...ylink=misearch

OSCEOLA, Mo. | City officials in Osceola, a southwest Missouri town of about 950 people, are asking the University of Kansas to drop its "Jayhawk" mascot because the name refers to a group of domestic terrorists that nearly destroyed the city 150 years ago.

In a resolution approved earlier this week, the Osceola Board of Alderman also asks the University of Missouri to educate Kansas on the history of the "Border War" and let people know there was more to it than William Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kan., in 1863.

Resentment still runs deep for residents of Osceola over the Sept. 22-23, 1861, siege by U.S. Sen. Jim Lane and a band of about 2,000 "Jayhawkers" that left a dozen men executed on the town square and the community itself a smoking ruin

"I grew up here, and it is all I heard about when I was attending grade school and high school," Mayor Larry Hutsler told the Columbia Daily Tribune. "Everyone knew who was responsible."

In the resolution, the city condemns "the celebration of this murderous gang of terrorists by an institution of 'higher education' in such a brazen and malicious manner."

Osceola had a population of about 2,500 before the 1861 attack, but fewer than 200 remained afterward. The city has never had as many residents as it did before the raid.

The attack was only one of several deadly episodes in the "Border War" over slavery between the two states. Lane was a radical abolitionist who formed his own militia at the outbreak of the Civil War and used it to punish Missourians.

When Quantrill's band attacked Lawrence — Lane's hometown — two years after the Jayhawkers' raid in Missouri, many of the guerrillas shouted "Remember Osceola" as they were killing about 200 of the city's men and burning down a quarter of the town.

The Osceola resolution asks Missourians to stop spelling Kansas or KU with a capital letter, since "neither is a proper name or a proper place." In the resolution, both words are lowercase throughout.

Rick Reed of Osceola, who brought the resolution to the aldermen, doesn't think the measure will persuade the University of Kansas to dump the Jayhawk.

"I don't expect them to do anything," he said. "They are so arrogant and uppity."

A Kansas spokeswoman downplayed the Civil War origin of the school's mascot.

"A Jayhawk is a blue bird with a red head and a big yellow beak that wears boots," spokeswoman Jill Jess said in an email to the Daily Tribune. "It would be hard to confuse it with anyone with terrorist intent, though we admit we have been terrorizing the Tigers on the basketball court for some time. Tigers have been known to kill people. Bears, too."

Missouri's Tigers mascot also has Civil War roots, named for the Unionist militia set up to protect Columbia from guerrilla raids, the newspaper reported.

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane

**** OSCEOLA and everyone in it.

Well, there are only a couple of hundred people, so that shouldn't take too long.

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 03:53 PM

FYI, I was only kidding with my last two posts.

Talk about thread killers...lol.

duncan_idaho · 09-19-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Sounds like ezbait, Teevo and Duncan Idaho.

Hey, I capitalize the "k" when I think about what I'm doing. I just forget sometimes when I'm typing quickly and not really paying attention to how I say "Kansas." Old habits and all of that...

Anyway, shouldn't you all be chopping people into pieces with broadswords or something?

Start Croyle · 09-19-2011, 05:44 PM

The origin of the mascot is common knowledge to everyone! Or at least I thought!

I mean, how can you live in Missouri or Kansas, especially close the border and not know about it!

I have been to Osceola. It is a very small town! But actually there are more towns than just that one that were involved in the border war/Jayhawk conflict!

**Donger** · 09-19-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Start Croyle

The origin of the mascot is common knowledge to everyone! Or at least I thought!

I mean, how can you live in Missouri or Kansas, especially close the border and not know about it!

I have been to Osceola. It is a very small town! But actually there are more towns than just that one that were involved in the civil war/Jayhawk conflict!

!

kstater · 09-19-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Start Croyle

The origin of the mascot is common knowledge to everyone! Or at least I thought!

I mean, how can you live in Missouri or Kansas, especially close the border and not know about it!

I have been to Osceola. It is a very small town! But actually there are more towns than just that one that were involved in the border war/Jayhawk conflict!

The Jayhawk is a mythical cross between two birds—the noisy blue jay and the quiet sparrow hawk.

farmerchief · 09-19-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Start Croyle

The origin of the mascot is common knowledge to everyone! Or at least I thought!

I mean, how can you live in Missouri or Kansas, especially close the border and not know about it!

I have been to Osceola. It is a very small town! But actually there are more towns than just that one that were involved in the border war/Jayhawk conflict!

I'm a Jayhawk Fan, and the Jayhawk mascot is a lot better than the Pig they started out with!

Start Croyle · 09-19-2011, 06:01 PM

I am not saying I agree with the idea that the mascot should be changed. Actually I think it is a cool mascot! And I would be proud of the history in Lawrence if I lived there!

Dr. Johnny Fever · 09-19-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Didn't you know? All our ancestors lived in huge four pillar mansions, owned hundreds of slaves and worshipped the devil!

Your sarcasm might be more effective without that avatar...

Bill Brasky · 09-19-2011, 07:47 PM

Well at least it's not another article about realignment....

Spott · 09-19-2011, 07:53 PM

They can do whatever they want with the mascot as long as Radio can keep his job for another 20 years.

Bambi · 09-20-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Start Croyle

I am not saying I agree with the idea that the mascot should be changed. Actually I think it is a cool mascot! And I would be proud of the history in Lawrence if I lived there!

Lawrence is a fantastic place to live, learn, and raise children.

Dr. Gigglepants · 09-20-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

The only thing I know about Osceola was to slow the hell down when I was passing it going to and from college because there were always cops and radar on highways. Oh, and the cheese store.

QFT

09-19-2011, 07:31 AM
luv MY LITTLE #15 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $6239600	Missouri town calls on KU to drop Jayhawks mascot I thought this was an interesting read.... http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/18...ylink=misearch OSCEOLA, Mo. \| City officials in Osceola, a southwest Missouri town of about 950 people, are asking the University of Kansas to drop its "Jayhawk" mascot because the name refers to a group of domestic terrorists that nearly destroyed the city 150 years ago. In a resolution approved earlier this week, the Osceola Board of Alderman also asks the University of Missouri to educate Kansas on the history of the "Border War" and let people know there was more to it than William Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kan., in 1863. Resentment still runs deep for residents of Osceola over the Sept. 22-23, 1861, siege by U.S. Sen. Jim Lane and a band of about 2,000 "Jayhawkers" that left a dozen men executed on the town square and the community itself a smoking ruin "I grew up here, and it is all I heard about when I was attending grade school and high school," Mayor Larry Hutsler told the Columbia Daily Tribune. "Everyone knew who was responsible." In the resolution, the city condemns "the celebration of this murderous gang of terrorists by an institution of 'higher education' in such a brazen and malicious manner." Osceola had a population of about 2,500 before the 1861 attack, but fewer than 200 remained afterward. The city has never had as many residents as it did before the raid. The attack was only one of several deadly episodes in the "Border War" over slavery between the two states. Lane was a radical abolitionist who formed his own militia at the outbreak of the Civil War and used it to punish Missourians. When Quantrill's band attacked Lawrence — Lane's hometown — two years after the Jayhawkers' raid in Missouri, many of the guerrillas shouted "Remember Osceola" as they were killing about 200 of the city's men and burning down a quarter of the town. The Osceola resolution asks Missourians to stop spelling Kansas or KU with a capital letter, since "neither is a proper name or a proper place." In the resolution, both words are lowercase throughout. Rick Reed of Osceola, who brought the resolution to the aldermen, doesn't think the measure will persuade the University of Kansas to dump the Jayhawk. "I don't expect them to do anything," he said. "They are so arrogant and uppity." A Kansas spokeswoman downplayed the Civil War origin of the school's mascot. "A Jayhawk is a blue bird with a red head and a big yellow beak that wears boots," spokeswoman Jill Jess said in an email to the Daily Tribune. "It would be hard to confuse it with anyone with terrorist intent, though we admit we have been terrorizing the Tigers on the basketball court for some time. Tigers have been known to kill people. Bears, too." Missouri's Tigers mascot also has Civil War roots, named for the Unionist militia set up to protect Columbia from guerrilla raids, the newspaper reported.
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Start Croyle Starter Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $10016078	The origin of the mascot is common knowledge to everyone! Or at least I thought! I mean, how can you live in Missouri or Kansas, especially close the border and not know about it! I have been to Osceola. It is a very small town! But actually there are more towns than just that one that were involved in the border war/Jayhawk conflict!
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