Chiefs Chiefs-related thoughts at the halfway point of the season. - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 10:16 PM

I have many random thoughts, but I'll stick to the ones that are about the Chiefs.

1. At the halfway point, the Chiefs are the #5 seed in the playoffs. Given the early-season schedule, this is a positive surprise. http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture.

2. Right now, the Chiefs are the #3 defense in terms of points allowed. The offense is in the top third, and the special teams are strong. The Chiefs have always been good at putting together one dominating unit while the others were weak, but right now they have one dominating unit and the others are strong.

3. I remember Herm Edwards' stupid statement that the offense was scoring too fast, which hurt the defense. While that statement is stupid, one must note that the offense is really helping the defense this year by keeping them off the field. They're ranked 6th in the league in time of possession.

3. I don't care what some of you say. Alex Smith is good, and I like him. I think he's this generation's Bernie Kosar, a guy who's really good at moving the chains and never making mistakes. But the difference is that Smith can run, and he's far better at that than I would have thought.

4. Dorsey is really good at identifying raw talent. You look at guys like Ron Parker and Knile Davis and Zach Fulton and Josh Mauga and others, and he finds productive players outside the high rounds. That's huge.

5. I think this team has good coaching. You look at how the backups have played, and they're very impressive. They've stepped right in and played great. And we don't see stupid mistakes for the most part. (I'm still laughing about the Santos karate kick, but hey, he's a foreign kicker.)

6. I think Allen Bailey is the breakout player of the year, out of a number of good candidates. Ron Parker might be next for that award, and you could make the case for several players.

7. Jamaal is having the worst season of his career from a YPC perspective, but I remain impressed by how good he is in all phases of the game. He can run, catch, block, hit for power, and hit for average. I'm always in awe of how he can take a situation with no apparent hole and pick up 5+ yards.

8. I l-o-v-e love the three tight end sets. Or two TEs with Bowe. Kelce is such a mismatch for people. The guy is always open. And did people notice the play in (I think) the third quarter where he chipped some defensive end and literally put the guy on his back. And all he did was chip him while going out for a safety valve route. It was hilarious.

9. Zach Fulton deserves some serious props. He stepped in as a rookie and has played like a veteran.

10. Now that the team is good, I find a perverse pleasure in seeing Colquitt punt sometimes. I want to see how close he can put the ball to the goal line.

11. Last season the defense started out strong and the offense weak, and then around Week 8 they flipped. It'll be interesting to see if the same thing happens this year where the offense improves and the defense regresses.

12. A really good receiver in the first round next year seems like an obvious priority, but I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it if Alex doesn't target WRs. That's fine as long as the offense clicks; recall that Trent Green didn't use receivers all that much during his heyday.

13. That little Thomas fellow impresses the heck out of me. He's legitimately both quick AND fast. I don't know if it was mentioned today, but he slipped and fell on one return, and got back to his feet faster than anyone I've ever seen. It was pretty impressive.

jLoy88 · 11-02-2014, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

I'll add a couple observations, some probably redundent:

[*]In my very short years playing football I played saftey and CB. When did the 'horse collar' officially become an illegal way to tackle? That was my forte' and I remember the coaches saying 'it's legal' after doing it many times. (I made it up to midgets in high school then switched to wrestling if that puts things in perspective)

After the 2004 season, when Roy Williams injured half the ****ing league by only using that style of tackling. (Literally, he would come at them head on and jump on their backs just to horse collar them.) The league realized how dangerous it was to let a person running full speed get upended like that.

**notorious** · 11-02-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jLoy88

After the 2004 season, when Roy Williams injured half the ****ing league by only using that style of tackling. (Literally, he would come at them head on and jump on their backs just to horse collar them.) The league realized how dangerous it was to let a person running full speed get upended like that.

Yep, Roy ****ed up a lot of knees and legs by tackling like a pussy.

He broke TO's leg.

58kcfan89 · 11-02-2014, 08:48 PM

As far as #12 goes, the offense is fine without hardly any production from WRs and Reid never really had any great WRs in Philly, beyond Terrell Owens for a year. Maclin & Jackson were fine, but neither were elite IMO. Rarely do his WRs end with over 1,000 yards.

This offense is about the backs & TEs, not the WRs. I believe Reid views WR as a luxury and we're not to the point of making luxury picks yet (Dee Ford notwithstanding...).

And that's to say nothing of how often Smith is going to target said WR anyway.

-King- · 11-02-2014, 08:49 PM

I agree with all that. And while Andy does have some WTF moments, when he's on, there aren't a lot of better play callers in the league. Some drives are just porn to watch. I really like this team's coaching.

milkman · 11-02-2014, 08:55 PM

Coaching is better, in terms of player development and preparation, than it has been since Marty.

But play calling and game management are still questionable, and cost us two games (Titans and 9ers), and will probably cost us again.

tk13 · 11-02-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Coaching is better, in terms of player development and preparation, than it has been since Marty.

But play calling and game management are still questionable, and cost us two games (Titans and 9ers), and will probably cost us again.

It's probably true. Andy Reid literally hasn't changed in 15 years. Terrible clock management, falls in love with the short passing game... but his teams get more than you expect out of guys, and seem to always be in the playoff mix.

**Rain Man** · 11-02-2014, 09:03 PM

Another thing I meant to mention is how impressed I am with Phillip Gaines so far. That guy is a tarp. He covers anything you want covered.

2bikemike · 11-02-2014, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Coaching is better, in terms of player development and preparation, than it has been since Marty.

But play calling and game management are still questionable, and cost us two games (Titans and 9ers), and will probably cost us again.

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Originally Posted by tk13

It's probably true. Andy Reid literally hasn't changed in 15 years. Terrible clock management, falls in love with the short passing game... but his teams get more than you expect out of guys, and seem to always be in the playoff mix.

Yep I keep expecting Reid to go full reerun again, Every week I am wondering if this is the week. I hope like hell he doesn't pull something stupid against the Bills. I want us to destroy them. I have an obnoxious co-worker who happens to be a Bills fan. Can't stand listening to him.

**TimeForWasp** · 11-02-2014, 10:09 PM

Good write up.

Reerun_KC · 11-02-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Coaching is better, in terms of player development and preparation, than it has been since Marty.

But play calling and game management are still questionable, and cost us two games (Titans and 9ers), and will probably cost us again.

Shit we are in agreement.

11-02-2014, 07:56 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3318491 VARSITY	Chiefs-related thoughts at the halfway point of the season. I have many random thoughts, but I'll stick to the ones that are about the Chiefs. 1. At the halfway point, the Chiefs are the #5 seed in the playoffs. Given the early-season schedule, this is a positive surprise. http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture. 2. Right now, the Chiefs are the #3 defense in terms of points allowed. The offense is in the top third, and the special teams are strong. The Chiefs have always been good at putting together one dominating unit while the others were weak, but right now they have one dominating unit and the others are strong. 3. I remember Herm Edwards' stupid statement that the offense was scoring too fast, which hurt the defense. While that statement is stupid, one must note that the offense is really helping the defense this year by keeping them off the field. They're ranked 6th in the league in time of possession. 3. I don't care what some of you say. Alex Smith is good, and I like him. I think he's this generation's Bernie Kosar, a guy who's really good at moving the chains and never making mistakes. But the difference is that Smith can run, and he's far better at that than I would have thought. 4. Dorsey is really good at identifying raw talent. You look at guys like Ron Parker and Knile Davis and Zach Fulton and Josh Mauga and others, and he finds productive players outside the high rounds. That's huge. 5. I think this team has good coaching. You look at how the backups have played, and they're very impressive. They've stepped right in and played great. And we don't see stupid mistakes for the most part. (I'm still laughing about the Santos karate kick, but hey, he's a foreign kicker.) 6. I think Allen Bailey is the breakout player of the year, out of a number of good candidates. Ron Parker might be next for that award, and you could make the case for several players. 7. Jamaal is having the worst season of his career from a YPC perspective, but I remain impressed by how good he is in all phases of the game. He can run, catch, block, hit for power, and hit for average. I'm always in awe of how he can take a situation with no apparent hole and pick up 5+ yards. 8. I l-o-v-e love the three tight end sets. Or two TEs with Bowe. Kelce is such a mismatch for people. The guy is always open. And did people notice the play in (I think) the third quarter where he chipped some defensive end and literally put the guy on his back. And all he did was chip him while going out for a safety valve route. It was hilarious. 9. Zach Fulton deserves some serious props. He stepped in as a rookie and has played like a veteran. 10. Now that the team is good, I find a perverse pleasure in seeing Colquitt punt sometimes. I want to see how close he can put the ball to the goal line. 11. Last season the defense started out strong and the offense weak, and then around Week 8 they flipped. It'll be interesting to see if the same thing happens this year where the offense improves and the defense regresses. 12. A really good receiver in the first round next year seems like an obvious priority, but I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it if Alex doesn't target WRs. That's fine as long as the offense clicks; recall that Trent Green didn't use receivers all that much during his heyday. 13. That little Thomas fellow impresses the heck out of me. He's legitimately both quick AND fast. I don't know if it was mentioned today, but he slipped and fell on one return, and got back to his feet faster than anyone I've ever seen. It was pretty impressive. Last edited by Rain Man; 11-17-2014 at 10:16 PM..
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11-02-2014, 08:48 PM	#18
58kcfan89 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10003187	As far as #12 goes, the offense is fine without hardly any production from WRs and Reid never really had any great WRs in Philly, beyond Terrell Owens for a year. Maclin & Jackson were fine, but neither were elite IMO. Rarely do his WRs end with over 1,000 yards. This offense is about the backs & TEs, not the WRs. I believe Reid views WR as a luxury and we're not to the point of making luxury picks yet (Dee Ford notwithstanding...). And that's to say nothing of how often Smith is going to target said WR anyway.
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-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $2485743	I agree with all that. And while Andy does have some WTF moments, when he's on, there aren't a lot of better play callers in the league. Some drives are just porn to watch. I really like this team's coaching. __________________ 🏁
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