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**Buehler445** · 06-06-2015, 10:28 PM

I have a Honda GX160 on a 2" flowmax transfer pump on my sprayer trailer that started blowing a little blue smoke

It kinda has a tough life. I pump a ****ton of gallons through it and the dust from the roads that is kicked up behind my semi is a lot for any filter to deal with, much less a little puke like the one that is on there. But I do keep it pretty clean and I've never taken it apart where it is super dirty.

When I first started it this spring, the gas had went bad. I had to un**** that mess. Then later on in the season I had some trouble with the compression release when I tried to start it, but dad dumped some oil in the cylinder and that must have freed it up. I don't think any of that is related, but it is showing it's age some.

Anyway, do I have any options besides pistons and rings? I changed the oil in it and that helped a slight amount, but it is still blowing blue smoke.

Is it just a matter of time until it ****s itself? I don't have time for this shit.

Any advice would be very much appreciated.

ghak99 · 06-08-2015, 12:02 AM

Just go get a new one, or one of the identical knock off hondas, and keep a big sledge on the spray tender. When it finally blows pull into the shade to remove the fittings and beat the ****er off like it was a Briggs and mount the new one in its place.

HonestChieffan · 06-08-2015, 07:02 AM

I run the 8hp on my spray unit. Its the most dependable thing ever. The good news is it won't cost a ton for yours to be overhauled, you may just have used a little too small a unit in a bit more adverse conditions than it was made for. Even my 2 inch transfer pump has a 6 HP

**Buehler445** · 06-08-2015, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz

Did you run any seafoam through it after the bad gas?

Seafoam? WTF is that?

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Originally Posted by mac459

You aren't drinking enough antifreeze

It's air cooled

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard

I suggest you go to straight 30 weight oil. Its a bit harder to find but has never failed me on engines with wear. Believe me we have done that switch on many an older engine showing signs of wear. That's how we do it in GC anyways. Drove through Scott yesterday darn its green and wet.

I'm using some Deere 15-45 PlusII stuff. What advantage does 30 wt oil have?

Yeah, we got about 8 inches in a month. Some places up to 12. We'd have a BUNCH more wheat if it would have done ANYTHING before May. I have a quarter of corn that needs 55 acres replanted, and just flat out don't care. I'll grow way more grain with the water than that 55 will grow dried out.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

How long ago was the compression release issue?

A month-ish. But I've sprayed a ton of gallons since.

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Originally Posted by ghak99

Just go get a new one, or one of the identical knock off hondas, and keep a big sledge on the spray tender. When it finally blows pull into the shade to remove the fittings and beat the ****er off like it was a Briggs and mount the new one in its place.

We have a spare, they're not too hard to get on the pump. The hard part is getting the pump clearance right.

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

I run the 8hp on my spray unit. Its the most dependable thing ever. The good news is it won't cost a ton for yours to be overhauled, you may just have used a little too small a unit in a bit more adverse conditions than it was made for. Even my 2 inch transfer pump has a 6 HP

Eh all the 2" pumps have the 160s. All the Bolts and Scrapiron motors I've had on 2" pumps have been 5HP. I REALLY wish it was an 8 HP on 3" pump, but don't want to drop the coin.

**Buzz** · 06-08-2015, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Seafoam? WTF is that?

Sea Foam® Motor Treatment was developed in the 1930’s and is guaranteed to work as good now as it did back then. Sea Foam® Motor Treatment safely and effectively cleans internal fuel and oil system components, helping your gasoline or diesel engine run cleaner and more efficiently.

100% Pure Petroleum Product
For Use in All Engines including 2-cycle, 4-cycle, and Diesels
Cleans Internal Carbon, Gum and Varnish Deposits
Cleans Fuel Injectors
Controls Moisture from Fuel and Oil
Stabilizes Fuel for Up to 2 Years
Frees Sticky Lifters & Rings
Restores Lost Fuel Economy

Mr. Wizard · 06-09-2015, 07:22 AM

Straight 30 weight has a thicker viscosity than multiweight oils and therefore has a "sealing effect" in older engines with wear. Its only supposed drawback its in low temperature conditions it supposedly takes longer to lubricate a cold engine. That said, most of the older tractors ran only 30 weight and lasted for years and years. On smaller engines we switch over at the first sign of oil usage and have had great luck over the years.

We have not had as much rain in garden as you guys, lost 50% of our best wheat to hail close to the finney/scott county line.

06-06-2015, 10:28 PM
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $1934734	Any small engine experts? I have a Honda GX160 on a 2" flowmax transfer pump on my sprayer trailer that started blowing a little blue smoke It kinda has a tough life. I pump a **ton of gallons through it and the dust from the roads that is kicked up behind my semi is a lot for any filter to deal with, much less a little puke like the one that is on there. But I do keep it pretty clean and I've never taken it apart where it is super dirty. When I first started it this spring, the gas had went bad. I had to un that mess. Then later on in the season I had some trouble with the compression release when I tried to start it, but dad dumped some oil in the cylinder and that must have freed it up. I don't think any of that is related, but it is showing it's age some. Anyway, do I have any options besides pistons and rings? I changed the oil in it and that helped a slight amount, but it is still blowing blue smoke. Is it just a matter of time until it **s itself? I don't have time for this shit. Any advice would be very much appreciated.
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06-08-2015, 12:02 AM	#16
ghak99 MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $1542250	Just go get a new one, or one of the identical knock off hondas, and keep a big sledge on the spray tender. When it finally blows pull into the shade to remove the fittings and beat the ****er off like it was a Briggs and mount the new one in its place.
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06-09-2015, 07:22 AM	#20
Mr. Wizard "I'm with you fellers" Join Date: Oct 2008 Casino cash: $5254495	Straight 30 weight has a thicker viscosity than multiweight oils and therefore has a "sealing effect" in older engines with wear. Its only supposed drawback its in low temperature conditions it supposedly takes longer to lubricate a cold engine. That said, most of the older tractors ran only 30 weight and lasted for years and years. On smaller engines we switch over at the first sign of oil usage and have had great luck over the years. We have not had as much rain in garden as you guys, lost 50% of our best wheat to hail close to the finney/scott county line. __________________ "I'm with you fellers"
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