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Old 01-08-2017, 09:03 AM  
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John Dorsey reportedly candidate for Packers GM

Yeah, that would suck pretty ****ing hard.

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When the Packers face the Giants in Sunday's wild-card game, the focus will be on the field. But the future of the man who built the Packers is one that is being fiercely debated in Green Bay. How long 63-year-old general manager Ted Thompson, with two years left on his contract, continues in his current job is an open question.

Now, an intriguing name has emerged as a potential successor: Chiefs GM John Dorsey.


Dorsey, a former Packers player who cut his teeth in Green Bay under Hall of Fame architect Ron Wolf, has not yet signed a contract extension, sources said. He's in the final year of his deal, potentially opening the door to him leaving what he helped build in Kansas City to work at Lambeau Field.

Sources said Dorsey is incredibly well-regarded by the Packers executive committee, including President and CEO Mark Murphy, from his time as a scout, Director of College Scouting and Director of Football Operations. Timing would have to be perfect, but if Thompson steps away to take a senior scouting role as some involved believe, Dorsey would be in a position to step in this year.

Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have worked hand-in-hand over the past four years to build the Chiefs into a consistent winner, and they are seeded second in the AFC playoffs. The Chiefs intend to give a contract extension to Reid this offseason, a source said. After this year, Reid will be in the final year of his deal.

The list of successors to Thompson is an intriguing one. It includes Director of Football Operations Eliot Wolf, who interviewed this week for the 49ers' open GM job. While he was blocked from interviewing for the Lions' GM job last year, his interview this year means he could be leaving. There is also Russ Ball, the vice president of football administration, who is universally respected in the NFL and by the executive committee. Director of Player Personnel Brian Gutekunst and Senior Personnel Executive Alonzo Highsmith are among the talented members of the Packers' front office.

With Dorsey entering the picture, it adds some intrigue to the future of the Packers' front office.

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Old 02-10-2017, 08:14 PM   #376
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I think we're already all embarrassed enough by the Chiefs playoff record. There really wouldn't be a way to be more embarrassed about it unless the Chiefs were somehow able to make the Superbowl, get a 25 point lead on the opposing team, then suffer an epic collapse like the Falcons did. Maybe then I could be more embarrassed than I already am.
We'd at least have the Lamar Hunt trophy.
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:15 PM   #377
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He better not pass on another Carr or Prescott.

****ing Dorsey.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:42 PM   #378
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He better not pass on another Carr or Prescott.

****ing Dorsey.
ANDY REID

I'm not sure why you are bitching about Dorsey.

Andy Reid is the HC and OC, he is the guy who decides whether he wants another QB or not. Just like Reid was the guy who decide that he wanted our current QB.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:47 PM   #379
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I don't think you're being fair to Dorsey. He inherited a 2-14 team and turned them into a perennial playoff contender that went 12-4 last year. Most people agree he's done an excellent job of stocking the roster with talented players, the notable exception being the quarterback position.

I give Dorsey a pass on Alex Smith because I don't think you can really pin Alex Smith on Dorsey. That was Andy Reid's call. And I'll be shocked if Dorsey doesn't draft his replacement this year.
I'd hold them to task for not doing a better job at finding tiny dick hands replacement.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:11 PM   #380
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ANDY REID

I'm not sure why you are bitching about Dorsey.

Andy Reid is the HC and OC, he is the guy who decides whether he wants another QB or not. Just like Reid was the guy who decide that he wanted our current QB.
Dorsey has final say in players. Andy does not. Dorsey has the power and if he's just letting Andy make all those decisions then he's not doing his job. This was made very clear when Andy was hired. Dorsey controls the players on the roster. Keeping Smith for another worthless year is Dorsey's fault. Andys as well but power wise it's Dorsey's screw up.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:23 PM   #381
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I don't think you're being fair to Dorsey. He inherited a 2-14 team and turned them into a perennial playoff contender that went 12-4 last year. Most people agree he's done an excellent job of stocking the roster with talented players, the notable exception being the quarterback position.

I give Dorsey a pass on Alex Smith because I don't think you can really pin Alex Smith on Dorsey. That was Andy Reid's call. And I'll be shocked if Dorsey doesn't draft his replacement this year.
Prepare to be shocked.
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Old 02-11-2017, 08:37 AM   #382
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Dorsey has final say in players. Andy does not. Dorsey has the power and if he's just letting Andy make all those decisions then he's not doing his job. This was made very clear when Andy was hired. Dorsey controls the players on the roster. Keeping Smith for another worthless year is Dorsey's fault. Andy as well but power wise it's Dorsey's screw up.
No.

Clark Hunt made it clear that he set up the system so that the GM and HC would work together.

Working together means that, while Dorsey does make the final decision, he has to consider Andy's input.

And when it comes to the QB position, Andy's voice has to carry a ton of weight.
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Old 02-11-2017, 10:06 AM   #383
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:10 AM   #384
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Dorsey has final say in players. Andy does not. Dorsey has the power and if he's just letting Andy make all those decisions then he's not doing his job. This was made very clear when Andy was hired. Dorsey controls the players on the roster. Keeping Smith for another worthless year is Dorsey's fault. Andys as well but power wise it's Dorsey's screw up.
You're high if you think Dorsey has final say over the QB. It's absolutely 100% Andy.
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Old 02-11-2017, 03:48 PM   #385
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I think we're already all embarrassed enough by the Chiefs playoff record. There really wouldn't be a way to be more embarrassed about it unless the Chiefs were somehow able to make the Superbowl, get a 25 point lead on the opposing team, then suffer an epic collapse like the Falcons did. Maybe then I could be more embarrassed than I already am.
This I don't understand. Why would YOU be embarrassed? Do you play for the Chiefs? Coach? Work in the FO? There is no reason for a fan to be embarrassed. Unless your self-worth is wrapped up in a football team, which is really sad.
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Old 02-11-2017, 04:07 PM   #386
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You're high if you think Dorsey has final say over the QB. It's absolutely 100% Andy.
THIS

Of course, Reid doesn't get involved in the minutia of every player, like backup linebackers etc. Dorsey runs the scouting and drafts the players BUT it's Reid that makes the final call on key players.

It's absolutely Reid that decides about the QB position. If the Chiefs ever draft a QB in the first 3 rounds of the draft, it will be Reid that decides which one and when.

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I disagree on the "when," but I wholeheartedly agree that Reid has majority input on the "who."

If Reid identifies the guys he'd feel most comfortable with, its up to Dorsey to decide when those guys have the most value on their draft board and when to pull the trigger.
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I disagree on the "when," but I wholeheartedly agree that Reid has majority input on the "who."

If Reid identifies the guys he'd feel most comfortable with, its up to Dorsey to decide when those guys have the most value on their draft board and when to pull the trigger.
alright, I can give you that.

I think I was meaning more about taking a QB high in the draft versus drafting a project guy in the later rounds though.

I feel like Reid has to be the one to say "We need a top guy who can start relatively soon so grab a guy on Day 1"

Of course 'Day 1' is now really 2 days(rds 1 thru 3) but you get the picture.
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