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04-30-2017, 05:17 PM | #61 |
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Bears were stupid
Lions were a disaster after round one I like the RB the Saints picked but they didn't need him and ignored their awful defense I liked Cleveland's picks but they will all bust 49ers for a ton of good players. Looks like they are planning in a qb next year |
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04-30-2017, 05:30 PM | #62 |
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Denver had an awful draft. Faid and Eggo were solid.
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I'm not missing any point. The Browns have followed this strategy for 20 years to disastrously bad results. And they sat on 2 top 15 picks with a shitload of trade ammo and they didn't even try to bring in a QB. The Browns think they can build a foundation and wait 3 years for a QB to fall into their lap. That is one hell of a gamble because none of what they're building right now matters if they don't have a QB. They've had 5 first round picks the last 2 years and used none on a QB. |
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04-30-2017, 05:43 PM | #64 | |
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The real lesson to be learned from all of those other QB's is that just taking a QB isn't going to solve their problems. They need to actually hit on one. Having a talented roster to support them with will help them do that. |
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You can't wait for the perfect QB situation to fall into your lap. That's dumb luck. Huge gamble to put all your eggs in the 2018 basket. There's no guarantee the Browns will even be in the top 5 next year, let alone #1. Lots of bright QB prospects fizzled out their senior year. Hell, Kizer was a top 5 pick in many circles this time last year. Other times, your QB is just out of reach. Like when the Chiefs were barely good enough to miss out on Matt Ryan. I could see Brock Osweiler playing just well enough to get the Browns out of play for the best QBs. It's the Brownsiest thing they can do. The reason everyone here loves the Mahomes trade is it's the ballsy QB move KC had resisted for years. They've already screwed up once by passing on Wentz. If they passed on a good QB in 2017, that'll be strike 2. They will likely be in desperation mode in 2018 and they better hope some dumb luck falls their way. Because it's the Browns, it probably won't and they'll settle for a QB they're not in love with. |
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Also, are you saying they shouldn't have taken Garrett? Because by the time pick #12 came there were already two gone. There are rumors that they liked Mahomes at 12 so who knows if they would've taken him. They let the draft come to them and came out with a really good haul and 4 more picks in the first two rounds next year to work with. They're doing a solid job so far. Going with Kizer and a QB in 2018 would be a great plan considering how things played out. One more thing, let's not pretend that Wentz is already a SB winning future HOF QB. I liked him and thought they should've taken him myself, but he's done nothing to prove that they made a huge mistake that they will regret for the next 10 years. |
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Trading out of Wentz last year was terrible. He doesn't have to be a HOFer. Alex Smith aien't going to the Super Bowl or HOF. But he was great for bringing a winning culture back to KC. Cleveland desperately needs that. The Browns have good chips in place for next year. But it's a huge gamble. They HAVE to get it right next year or else the rebuild was a complete bust. We've seen this movie play out way too many times. Kizer is the same pick the Browns have made for 20 years to disastrous results. If I was the Browns, I would have drafted Watson and then drafted a top 10 QB again in 2018 if they don't like what they saw. That's acknowledging that they already made a mistake once with Wentz. No, I would not have an issue using 2 top 10 picks on a QB. The Browns could easily recover a good draft pick if they wanted to trade Watson after a year. |
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I'm bumping this to see how close initial views of the draft have been to first season performance. Who looks like a bust and who is a surprise. Obviously, Kareem Hunt was one of the biggest surprises in the league this year. Who else? For the Donks, I think that Bolles has been a little better than some of us expected, but not quite what KnowShit expected either.
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