Chiefs ‘Kareem Cut Kareem’ — The Athletic article with all the details - Page 33

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-01-2018, 07:49 PM

This comes from the Athletic’s Nate Taylor and requires subscription (or you can use a one week free trial to read... I’m not going to include the actual article, but I will give the details that you’ll want to know. And full disclosure, it’s sad as ****.

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Tears streamed down Kareem Hunt’s cheeks Friday evening after he learned of his fate with the Kansas City Chiefs, the team he had starred for in 2017 and ’18. Hunt cried in front of his coaches and members of the front office, according to multiple league sources with knowledge of the situation. With trembling emotion in his voice, Hunt apologized for his mistake and pleaded to the Chiefs to reconsider their decision...

It really felt like a funeral,” one source told The Athletic on Saturday...

...As Hunt was dealing with the shock of his contract being terminated, he also was given an emphatic message from multiple team officials, according to sources close to the team: The Chiefs don’t want Hunt’s future to be similar to what former NFL running back Ray Rice experienced....

..The Chiefs told Hunt that he would never play in their uniform again, but that they would do what they could to help him remain in the NFL if he takes the necessary steps to improve his behavior and make better decisions in the future...

...Before the Chiefs left Kansas City for Oakland on Saturday, team officials told Hunt they wanted him to continue to receive counseling — which he had done this season through the team — after being placed on the NFL’s Commissioner Exempt list. According to a team source, the Chiefs called the NFL twice Friday afternoon to express their desire to have Hunt enrolled in a new counseling program through the league, even as the league continues its investigation of the incident...

...The Chiefs expect Hunt to be suspended six games for violating the NFL’s personal-conduct policy once the league ends its investigation, which is expected to happen this offseason...

...The Chiefs, according to multiple league sources, knew video evidence of the altercation existed, but they were told by the NFL to stop pursuing it later in February once the league began its investigation. The league, however, couldn’t obtain the video.

Hunt complicated his situation, according to a team source, by not informing the Chiefs of the incident later in the day on Feb. 10. The Chiefs learned of Hunt’s altercation after it became public through two police reports, neither of which included anything about Hunt kicking the woman. In the months that followed, the Chiefs on multiple occasions asked Hunt to be completely truthful about what happened that night. “I never left the (hotel) room,” Hunt told the Chiefs each time. “I didn’t do a thing.”...

...According to a team source, the Chiefs anticipate multiple teams will attempt to sign Hunt — who has recorded 2,984 all-purpose yards and 25 total touchdowns in just 27 games — if NFL commissioner Roger Goodell rules him eligible to play again.

The Chiefs, in an effort to help their former player, plan to explain to inquiring teams who Hunt was as a person — compassionate, jovial and proudly involved in community events — under their structure and watch. Several members of the Chiefs hope to see Hunt in an NFL uniform again, and after a tearful goodbye with their former star, the Chiefs want Hunt to grow from his mistakes and the necessary counseling...

...“Coach (Andy Reid) didn’t cut Kareem, (general manager) Brett (Veach) didn’t cut Kareem and (owner) Clark (Hunt) didn’t cut Kareem,” a source told The Athletic. “Kareem cut Kareem.”

htismaqe · 12-05-2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

If your favorite band has a history of getting into bar fights that's because they are Rock N Roll. You don't stop listening to them.

Dozens of bands have had to change labels because of "off the field" incidents.

I agree that the people saying he should never play again are going overboard but then again, who cares what they say?

Until it actually happens, there isn't really a double standard, just a bunch of media blah blah blah. Turn off the TV, it's great for the soul.

O.city · 12-05-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

My point is most and I am talking 95%+ of the population, don't hold actors and musicians to this standard we are talking about. They don't.

If your favorite band has a history of getting into bar fights that's because they are Rock N Roll. You don't stop listening to them.

Actors get into shit all the time and nobody blinks an eye.

Again this wasn't domestic violence as much as people try to make it out to be. This isn't the same as Ruben Foster hitting his GF 3 times in 6 months. Its not and to say it is is ridiculous. This isn't the same as Greg Hardy, hell this isn't the same as Joe Mixon. Which wasn't domestic violence either but a much more serious assault.

I agree he should be punished, I agree he lied to the team which was a MAJOR **** up.

I just think the moral outrage has seemed to go off the charts and its appears to be just another social media and media driven hype train. I saw an ESPN host along with others say he should never be allowed to play in the NFL again. That's freaking absurd.

The girl Reuben hit has claimed violence on 2 different men and recanted. So I don't see how we can know what the hell is going on with that dude.

It wasn't DV. It was assault.

I think it's kind of crazy everyone wants to hold the NFL to this crazy standard but doesn't seem to care that the damn police didn't charge him.

If I were the NFL, i'd stay out of the investigation business. If theres no charges, that's not our problem would be my stance and kick it to the law enforcement.

Marcellus · 12-05-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Dozens of bands have had to change labels because of "off the field" incidents.

I agree that the people saying he should never play again are going overboard but then again, who cares what they say?

Until it actually happens, there isn't really a double standard, just a bunch of media blah blah blah. Turn off the TV, it's great for the soul.

There are people in this thread saying the same thing. I am pointing out the double standard in their own thinking.

Marcellus · 12-05-2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The girl Reuben hit has claimed violence on 2 different men and recanted. So I don't see how we can know what the hell is going on with that dude.

It wasn't DV. It was assault.

I think it's kind of crazy everyone wants to hold the NFL to this crazy standard but doesn't seem to care that the damn police didn't charge him.

If I were the NFL, i'd stay out of the investigation business. If theres no charges, that's not our problem would be my stance and kick it to the law enforcement.

Pretty much how I feel about it.

htismaqe · 12-05-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The girl Reuben hit has claimed violence on 2 different men and recanted. So I don't see how we can know what the hell is going on with that dude.

It wasn't DV. It was assault.

I think it's kind of crazy everyone wants to hold the NFL to this crazy standard but doesn't seem to care that the damn police didn't charge him.

If I were the NFL, i'd stay out of the investigation business. If theres no charges, that's not our problem would be my stance and kick it to the law enforcement.

The NFL cares about its public perception. This is the world we live in, where one well-placed social media campaign can lead to a CEO getting fired simply because people don't like his/her politics. There is ZERO chance the NFL was ever going to leave this to the police. What is considered "criminal" in this country now goes WELL beyond what is and isn't legal.

I said this at the very beginning - no charges, no issue in my mind. Unfortunately, that's not reality. Reality is the only way to prevent the storm of controversy is to get out in front of it. The masses actually EXPECT you to cut off your nose to spite your face.

htismaqe · 12-05-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

There are people in this thread saying the same thing. I am pointing out the double standard in their own thinking.

Sorry I didn't see anybody in this thread (or on this site) suggest he should never play again. I don't agree with that.

O.city · 12-05-2018, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The NFL cares about its public perception. This is the world we live in, where one well-placed social media campaign can lead to a CEO getting fired simply because people don't like his/her politics. There is ZERO chance the NFL was ever going to leave this to the police. What is considered "criminal" in this country now goes WELL beyond what is and isn't legal.

I said this at the very beginning - no charges, no issue in my mind. Unfortunately, that's not reality. Reality is the only way to prevent the storm of controversy is to get out in front of it. The masses actually EXPECT you to cut off your nose to spite your face.

They've done it to themselves.

Not to get to political here but it's a ****ing problem. You're guilty until innocent and teams and people pay to much attention to social media IMO.

htismaqe · 12-05-2018, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They've done it to themselves.

Not to get to political here but it's a ****ing problem. You're guilty until innocent and teams and people pay to much attention to social media IMO.

But that's our ENTIRE society, not just the NFL. It's not like the NFL is going out on a limb here, they're literally going with the flow.

Sassy Squatch · 12-05-2018, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They've done it to themselves.

Not to get to political here but it's a ****ing problem. You're guilty until innocent and teams and people pay to much attention to social media IMO.

It's only going to get worse from here. After Ray Rice it was bad enough but now they've been burned again.