Football Least Deserving Hall of Famers: Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens

**Rain Man** · 05-12-2019, 01:44 PM

VOTE FOR THREE.

With all of the talk about undeserving players like Floyd Little and Jerome Bettis and Terrell Davis, I thought it might be interesting to identify the absolute least deserving people in the Hall of Fame.

I'll do this first for players, identifying the least deserving players by team, and then we'll do a heat or two for non-players.

I'll put up the teams one at a time, starting with the team you love to hate, the Dallas Cowboys.

Pick the THREE least deserving Cowboy players in the Hall of Fame.

Poll coming in less time than it takes for Thurman Thomas to find his helmet.

You can read profiles of the players here, in a very unfriendly format on the HoF site: https://www.profootballhof.com/heroe...me/franchises/

Rules note: If a team has less than 10 HoFers, I'll combine them with another team to get to that number.

**Rain Man** · 05-12-2019, 09:40 PM

We really like O.J. Simpson around here.

And who picked Ed Reed as being among the least deserving? I take exception to that.

**RealSNR** · 05-12-2019, 09:47 PM

Pete Rose bets on baseball

BANNED FOR LIFE

Ray Lewis murders a dude

WELCOME TO THE HALL OF FAME

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-12-2019, 10:10 PM

Reed is the only one that truly doesn't deserve to be in.

ChiefsCountry · 05-12-2019, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Reed is the only one that truly doesn't deserve to be in.

Andre or Ed?

Bump · 05-12-2019, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Andre or Ed?

obviously he means Andre. Ed is arguably the GOAT at safety.

TomBarndtsTwin · 05-12-2019, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

obviously he means Andre. Ed is arguably the GOAT at safety.

Ronnie Lott says ‘hi’

Bump · 05-12-2019, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Ronnie Lott says ‘hi’

When I think of great NFL safeties, the first 3 to always pop in my mind is Lott, Krause and Reed.

raidersnumber1 · 05-13-2019, 12:35 AM

Ray Lewis tied for least deserving so far (i'm assuming based on past character issues/murder trial)...meanwhile 0 votes for OJ so far.

**New World Order** · 05-13-2019, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Pete Rose bets on baseball

BANNED FOR LIFE

Ray Lewis murders a dude

WELCOME TO THE HALL OF FAME

Reek is a lock for HOF

Deberg_1990 · 05-13-2019, 05:52 AM

Any mention of OJ being removed?

He was inducted long before the murders.

Should post career developments affect your hall of fame eligibility?

Amnorix · 05-13-2019, 06:52 AM

The NFL Hall of Fame eligibility requirements SPECIFICALLY state that off field activities are NOT to be considered. For that reason, you can ignore whatever OJ did after his career was over, and whatever murders Ray Lewis did or did not commit. It's on field ONLY.

So unless you want to make up an entirely different set of rules for consideration, they're both obviously in based on their on field achievements.

Leaving only Andre Reed as someone who may not deserve to be in the HOF. I'm fine with him being in, however. He was 2nd in receptions when he retired, and was a 7 time Pro Bowler. He's no slam dunk, but it's not at all bad.

His stats already look less stellar based on the new generation's passing game craze, and that will only worsen over time, but he's reasonably deserving.

Amnorix · 05-13-2019, 06:52 AM

Meanwhile, good poll (as always) Rain Man, but why not make the voting public?

**loochy** · 05-13-2019, 08:28 AM

Yup, it's not the Hall of Good Citizenship.

**Rain Man** · 05-13-2019, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Meanwhile, good poll (as always) Rain Man, but why not make the voting public?

Y'know, I've always preferred the anonymous polls as a default because I think they allow people to state opinions that may not be popular. Very occasionally I'll make a poll public, often where it's a prediction type of thing or something else where I want people to be held accountable. So for the most part, unless there's a strong reason, I'm making the poll anonymous.

But I'm willing to hear arguments for and against. What's your reasoning that a public poll would be superior in this case?

View Poll Results: Vote for the THREE LEAST DESERVING HoFers on this list.
Andre Reed	17	30.91%
Billy Shaw	14	25.45%
Bruce Smith	4	7.27%
Jim Kelly	7	12.73%
Joe DeLamielleure	12	21.82%
O.J. Simpson	3	5.45%
Thurman Thomas	6	10.91%
Ed Reed	4	7.27%
Jonathan Ogden	10	18.18%
Ray Lewis	15	27.27%
All of these players deserve to be in the Hall of Fame	6	10.91%
There's more murder in this heat than I expected.	12	21.82%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

05-12-2019, 01:44 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2988491 VARSITY	Least Deserving Hall of Famers: Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens VOTE FOR THREE. With all of the talk about undeserving players like Floyd Little and Jerome Bettis and Terrell Davis, I thought it might be interesting to identify the absolute least deserving people in the Hall of Fame. I'll do this first for players, identifying the least deserving players by team, and then we'll do a heat or two for non-players. I'll put up the teams one at a time, starting with the team you love to hate, the Dallas Cowboys. Pick the THREE least deserving Cowboy players in the Hall of Fame. Poll coming in less time than it takes for Thurman Thomas to find his helmet. You can read profiles of the players here, in a very unfriendly format on the HoF site: https://www.profootballhof.com/heroe...me/franchises/ Rules note: If a team has less than 10 HoFers, I'll combine them with another team to get to that number.
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05-12-2019, 09:40 PM	#2
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2988491 VARSITY	We really like O.J. Simpson around here. And who picked Ed Reed as being among the least deserving? I take exception to that. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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05-12-2019, 10:10 PM	#4
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7959572	Reed is the only one that truly doesn't deserve to be in. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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05-13-2019, 12:35 AM	#9
raidersnumber1 Coomer Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $10000400	Ray Lewis tied for least deserving so far (i'm assuming based on past character issues/murder trial)...meanwhile 0 votes for OJ so far.
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05-13-2019, 05:52 AM	#11
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3684454	Any mention of OJ being removed? He was inducted long before the murders. Should post career developments affect your hall of fame eligibility? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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05-13-2019, 06:52 AM	#12
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	The NFL Hall of Fame eligibility requirements SPECIFICALLY state that off field activities are NOT to be considered. For that reason, you can ignore whatever OJ did after his career was over, and whatever murders Ray Lewis did or did not commit. It's on field ONLY. So unless you want to make up an entirely different set of rules for consideration, they're both obviously in based on their on field achievements. Leaving only Andre Reed as someone who may not deserve to be in the HOF. I'm fine with him being in, however. He was 2nd in receptions when he retired, and was a 7 time Pro Bowler. He's no slam dunk, but it's not at all bad. His stats already look less stellar based on the new generation's passing game craze, and that will only worsen over time, but he's reasonably deserving. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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05-13-2019, 08:28 AM	#14
loochy Hey Loochy, I'm hooome! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PooPooKaKaPeePeeShire Casino cash: $1810752	Yup, it's not the Hall of Good Citizenship.
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