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Old 03-11-2013, 09:24 PM   Topic Starter
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Late night bullshit: doing the Geno thing again.

So if the Chiefs pull off the following moves:

1. lock up a starting DE like Dorsey/DeVito/Jason Jones

2. re-sign Branden Albert

3. ink a starting corner like DRC

Then that means we'll have a hole at pretty much two positions:

backup, developmental QB behind Alex Smith

and

right tackle

(and sam-backer, I guess, but Reid's not going to draft an ILB #1 overall)

The decision boils down to the safest possible pick in Luke Joeckel and the big-ballsy risk of Geno Smith.

I absolutely cannot accept the idea that Geno Smith is out of consideration.

We've got two potential right tackles on our roster now.

This team is mostly built. There are no huge, glaring deficiencies other than Alex Smith.

The secondary will have seven players with significant starting experience (Berry, Robinson, Abdullah, Lewis, Flowers, DRC, Arenas).

The WR corps could be beefed up, but features two receivers Andy Reid loves in Bowe and McCluster.

A tough defensive line. A good pair of bookend passrushers.

The Chiefs have a very experienced starting QB for Geno to sit behind.

And that starting QB was himself a 1st overall pick, and could mentor Geno through the worst aspects of it.

Geno's skillset beautifully matches a west coast offense.

It just makes too much sense to say no to. Too much sense.

Here's what I'll say:

If my plan was to bring in Geno Smith with the #1 pick, knowing what I know about him, then this is how I prep my team for his arrival.

I sit him for the year, let Alex fight for his reputation, and keep Geno comfortable with the clipboard for as long as Alex isn't shitting his pants.

This is what you'd do, right? The Chiefs haven't made any buzz with backup QBs. They've not commented on Stanzi. They haven't talked to anybody other than the QBs in this draft.

They don't want to burn the 1st overall on a right tackle. Surely not.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:31 PM   #2
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There's absolutely no argument that anybody can make that will lead me to believe that a QB is even in consideration at #1 after the Alex Smith trade. I think people want it to happen so badly (and believe me, I do too) that they're throwing every iota of logic and reality and decades of Chiefs franchise and Hunt family history out the window. It's just desperation.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:37 PM   #3
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There's absolutely no argument that anybody can make that will lead me to believe that a QB is even in consideration at #1 after the Alex Smith trade. I think people want it to happen so badly (and believe me, I do too) that they're throwing every iota of logic and reality and decades of Chiefs franchise and Hunt family history out the window. It's just desperation.
After ASmith, you have Dick Stanzi. We have RTs on the roster. Unless the Chiefs get another backup QB (or two), we are going with Geno.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:39 PM   #4
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After ASmith, you have Dick Stanzi. We have RTs on the roster. Unless the Chiefs get another backup QB (or two), we are going with Geno.
So your logic here is that we don't have a backup so we're going to take the first pick in the draft and use it on a backup.

It will either be o line or d line.

Guaranteed.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:41 PM   #5
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So your logic here is that we don't have a backup so we're going to take the first pick in the draft and use it on a backup.

It will either be o line or d line.

Guaranteed.
Stanzi is a backup. We're not using the #1 pick on a backup. Geno is not a backup.

Geno is a future starting QB.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:49 PM   #6
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Stanzi is a backup. We're not using the #1 pick on a backup. Geno is not a backup.

Geno is a future starting QB.
Geno is a future starting QB in the same way that tofu is a meal to ethiopians.

If it's all that you got, it's all you got.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:42 PM   #7
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So your logic here is that we don't have a backup so we're going to take the first pick in the draft and use it on a backup.
Why have the Chiefs made zero buzz at the QB position other than the Alex Smith splash?

Is there a single rookie QB that's worth his weight as a backup QB that you see being available at 3a?
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Why have the Chiefs made zero buzz at the QB position other than the Alex Smith splash?

Is there a single rookie QB that's worth his weight as a backup QB that you see being available at 3a?
I want you to evaluate your question objectively.

Why haven't the Chiefs made zero buzz (besides trading away the 1st pick in the 2nd round and future considerations) at the qb position?

Who's to say Stanzi isn't the backup and a scrubs 3, maybe Reid like the fact that Tanney can hit a moving truck blindfolded and drunk from 39 yards out?
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:54 PM   #9
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Why have the Chiefs made zero buzz at the QB position other than the Alex Smith splash?
The answer to that one is pretty easy: it's not march 12th for another hour.
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After ASmith, you have Dick Stanzi. We have RTs on the roster. Unless the Chiefs get another backup QB (or two), we are going with Geno.
I never said they were taking a tackle. Although I think they may if they can't trade back. But that's really a mutually-exclusive idea to me, with regards to QB. It doesn't have any bearing on what I believe as far as Geno goes.

I just believe there's 0% chance they're taking a QB with 1:1. They aren't trading 2nds for Alex Smith if they haven't already penciled him in as the starter. And they aren't drafting a project QB at 1. Now, I personally don't think Geno is a project, but when you have a starter in place (and they do now), then he's going to be one by default. And I think they're going to want immediate return on a number 1 pick. I don't believe they're going to spend a pick that high on a guy with the express intention of putting him on the bench and waiting years to see what they have.

My thinking would be different if they hadn't given up so much for Alex Smith. They bring him in as a free agent, and we're having a different discussion. But they didn't do that. They're not spending what they did if they expect him to be a placeholder for a year.
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the problem with the logic and its well thought out. But, Andy Reid could of gotten a cheaper back up to play place holder if that what he was after. And, Andy Reid doesnt favor left over right.

Id be more concerned if i were chiefs fans if they do what he thinks and that is take star.

as for backers go, you have derrick johnson, there will be free agent backers that you can get. Larry Grant from san francisco is a free agent, dan connor just got cut from the cowboys.

you are set at olb with tamba and houston. just need that second corner.

Probably need a second running back, i doubt they are bringing back peyton hillis.

I still think their preference is to trade down, but if they cant, they are going to take joeckel. I know people think that is stupid, but the eagles, and packers both believe that you build through the lines. Look at how many picks the packers have used on the line. the eagles are the same way, except they usually prefer the defensive line.
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I can't wait until after the draft when the mediocre Geno Smith begins to slowly fade away.
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