How can "vanilla" be the excuse?

el borracho · 08-17-2006, 09:00 PM

Aren't the other teams running "vanilla" schemes in the preseason, also? I'm no expert but I'd say the problem is our lineman. Someone explain why their vanilla is so much better than ours.

tk13 · 08-17-2006, 09:02 PM

They aren't being vanilla. Look at how many bootlegs and misdirections and end arounds and reverses we've faced. And the Giants were much more aggressive at blitzing on defense, while we sat back and didn't show much defensively.

Now, that's not to say we'll be good or bad when the season starts, but I think we're definitely more "vanilla" than our opponents so far.

|Zach| · 08-17-2006, 09:03 PM

No, I don't believe the teams we have played are running vanilla...esp the Texans.

stevieray · 08-17-2006, 09:08 PM

The last time the Giants were on that field, they got blanked 23-0.

Coupled with Coughlins ego, and there you go.

We still have to play better.

BigRock · 08-17-2006, 09:09 PM

You don't start the game by running a reverse if you're trying to be vanilla.

tk13 · 08-17-2006, 09:10 PM

We also haven't done any shifting, motion on offense.

I can understand why people are concerned about the D, but I don't know about the O. We always do this. We just aren't showing any motion, shifting, any of the actual things we do.

|Zach| · 08-17-2006, 09:12 PM

That soft zone is not going to be played every play this year...

Mecca · 08-17-2006, 09:16 PM

I'm sorry guys, misdirections and end arounds are basic parts of an offense. It's not a trick play, it's in the basic offensive playbook.

I'm embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan after reading things like this. You guys should be more upset that the defense can't defend rather than crying about how the Giants didn't play nice.

stevieray · 08-17-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan after reading things like this.

BigRock · 08-17-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm sorry guys, misdirections and end arounds are basic parts of an offense. It's not a trick play, it's in the basic offensive playbook.

How many have the Chiefs run?

|Zach| · 08-17-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm sorry guys, misdirections and end arounds are basic parts of an offense. It's not a trick play, it's in the basic offensive playbook.

I'm embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan after reading things like this. You guys should be more upset that the defense can't defend rather than crying about how the Giants didn't play nice.

The only person crying is you about your status as a Chiefs fan. We are just stating what we saw.

Tell me that reverse play is vanilla.

Fish · 08-17-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan after reading things like this. You guys should be more upset that the defense can't defend rather than crying about how the Giants didn't play nice.

Seriously dude.... it's still preseason.... put down the pill bottle....

Mecca · 08-17-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Yep, it sure is funny isn't it.....continue to act like what I said isn't true. Cry about how the Giants didn't play nice rather than the shitty defense and how ****in stupid they are that they can't defend basic misdirection plays.

tk13 · 08-17-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm sorry guys, misdirections and end arounds are basic parts of an offense. It's not a trick play, it's in the basic offensive playbook.

I'm embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan after reading things like this. You guys should be more upset that the defense can't defend rather than crying about how the Giants didn't play nice.

I think you need to relax. Did you see us out there running any end arounds or anything out there?

**dirk digler** · 08-17-2006, 09:22 PM

Reverses are a standard NFL play now and it is not a trick play. Hell the Chiefs run between 1-2 every game.

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08-17-2006, 09:02 PM	#2
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1742500	They aren't being vanilla. Look at how many bootlegs and misdirections and end arounds and reverses we've faced. And the Giants were much more aggressive at blitzing on defense, while we sat back and didn't show much defensively. Now, that's not to say we'll be good or bad when the season starts, but I think we're definitely more "vanilla" than our opponents so far.
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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5206768	No, I don't believe the teams we have played are running vanilla...esp the Texans.
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stevieray best in the biz Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $2325273	The last time the Giants were on that field, they got blanked 23-0. Coupled with Coughlins ego, and there you go. We still have to play better.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1742500	We also haven't done any shifting, motion on offense. I can understand why people are concerned about the D, but I don't know about the O. We always do this. We just aren't showing any motion, shifting, any of the actual things we do.
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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5206768	That soft zone is not going to be played every play this year...
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2357050	I'm sorry guys, misdirections and end arounds are basic parts of an offense. It's not a trick play, it's in the basic offensive playbook. I'm embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan after reading things like this. You guys should be more upset that the defense can't defend rather than crying about how the Giants didn't play nice.
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08-17-2006, 09:22 PM	#15
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $3024644	Reverses are a standard NFL play now and it is not a trick play. Hell the Chiefs run between 1-2 every game.
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