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Old 01-11-2007, 10:21 PM  
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Dick Vermeil vs Herm Edwards
Dick Vermeil in KC 5 years. 1 playoff game
Herm Edwards 1 year 1 playoff game
( 4 playoff berths in 6 years coaching)

just relax. give the guy a chance. 9-7 playoff year with a team that needs 2 Offensive Tackles, 2 Defensive Tackles, and a linebacker.

Vermeil cried a lot and lived off the miracle that dropped in his lap in St.Louis.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:22 PM   #2
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DV was the head coach in 2 SB's won 1

Herm hasn't won more than 10 regular season games in 1 season and has never been the head coach of a SB team.

I am not saying I miss DV but DV took over for a Gunther led team that was in disarray. Herm has taken over for both Bill Parcells and DV, 2 HOF coaches.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:29 PM   #5
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Well, Herms cupboard wasnt as bare when he got here as DV's was when he arrived.

On the other hand, Herm accomplished in 1 year what DV did in 5.

Yet it was mostly with DV players, so in a tight finish i will have to say DV.
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DV was the head coach in 2 SB's won 1

Herm hasn't won more than 10 regular season games in 1 season and has never been the head coach of a SB team.

I am not saying I miss DV but DV took over for a Gunther led team that was in disarray. Herm has taken over for both Bill Parcells and DV, 2 HOF coaches.
So Parcells was a great coach once ( who btw has never won a playoff game without Belichick) but that doesnt mean he great today.

Vermeil was a very good coach. But in KC he took the Chiefs to 1 playoff game in 5 years. Edwards has matched that in his first year.

Why doesnt Edwards get 5 years? Can he have, maybe 2?
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Well, Herms cupboard wasnt as bare when he got here as DV's was when he arrived.
But the stuff in the cupbord got old and developed mold aweful quickly for Herm. Roaf, both OT, and a QB just for starters.
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I only saw 3 play-off games last Saturday and the Chiefs weren't in one I don't care what the newpapers and radio talkshows try to tell me.
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So Parcells was a great coach once ( who btw has never won a playoff game without Belichick) but that doesnt mean he great today.

Vermeil was a very good coach. But in KC he took the Chiefs to 1 playoff game in 5 years. Edwards has matched that in his first year.

Why doesnt Edwards get 5 years? Can he have, maybe 2?
Last year we went 10-6 and I think we were like the 9th or 10th team in NFL history to ever go 10-6 and miss the playoffs. It was a fluke basically that we didn't get in.

Remember basically the same guys on this team this year and we went 9-7 and lucked our way into the playoffs.

DV was and is a great coach and when Herm coaches a team in the SB then come back to me and compare them.
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I only saw 3 play-off games last Saturday and the Chiefs weren't in one I don't care what the newpapers and radio talkshows try to tell me.
Yep. We were the laughingstock of the NFL last weekend. Way worse than in 2003.
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How many years inbetween DVs SBs? Does HE get that many years before he is compared to DV?

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Yep. We were the laughingstock of the NFL last weekend. Way worse than in 2003.
Check that,3 play-off games last weekend.
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I am not saying I miss DV but DV took over for a Gunther led team that was in disarray. Herm has taken over for both Bill Parcells and DV, 2 HOF coaches.
Not true. The 2000 Chiefs while finishing a disappointing 7-9, lost several close games and finished ranked #8 overall in total offense and #20 in total defense. The passing offense was the 5th best in the NFL. DV comes in and institues Ramifization, drops to 6-10 and 8-8, and ignores the decline of the D while building on O which was already very strong.
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But the stuff in the cupbord got old and developed mold aweful quickly for Herm. Roaf, both OT, and a QB just for starters.
Agreed.
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So Parcells was a great coach once ( who btw has never won a playoff game without Belichick) but that doesnt mean he great today.

Vermeil was a very good coach. But in KC he took the Chiefs to 1 playoff game in 5 years. Edwards has matched that in his first year.

Why doesnt Edwards get 5 years? Can he have, maybe 2?
Herm is on the right track if he just realizes that DV built a monster that threatened every team in the NFL. While Herm may not field those top offenses, he hoepfully realizes that a high powered offense is at least 50% of the equation in building a championship team.
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