GRETZ: Accomplishing Something

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-19-2007, 04:20 PM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/11...ing_something/

INDIANAPOLIS – If you doubt whether the Chiefs have accomplished anything in 27 games of Herm Ball over the last two seasons, then you should have been in the visitor’s locker room at the RCA Dome after their 13-10 loss on Sunday to the Colts.

In that room was a group of ticked off football players. They were mad. They were frustrated with the game’s outcome. For most of this afternoon, the Chiefs had played better football than the Colts. Yet, they ended up with another loss, their third straight.

There was no talk of moral victories, no talk of fighting the good fight against tough odds. Coming into the game, the boys in Las Vegas had set the Chiefs as 14_-point underdogs. Nobody gave them a chance. The Colts are the defending Super Bowl champions and they had lost two in a row. Sure, they had some injuries, but they still had Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, Joseph Addai, Dallas Clark, Bob Sanders and a host of other more obscure, but very talented players. Plus, they were playing at home, a place where whether the crowd noise is enhanced or not, it’s very loud and difficult for the visitors.

Against these long odds, the Chiefs played the Colts toe-to-toe. They rattled Manning, they took Clark out of the game and for the most part controlled the running of Addai. The offense continued to have its problems (see the offensive line), but Brodie Croyle looked cool and confident in his first NFL start.

Coming close and just missing the victory would be enough for some. Dare say, it may have been enough for many on this team say early last year.

Not so on this day, and with this team. After a game where the Chiefs defense turned in one of its most impressive showings in the last decade, Jared Allen said: “We let the team down. The defense. We couldn’t stop them on that drive late in the game. We allowed them the chance to win the game. That’s on us.

“A good game. That’s crap. We lost.”

The drive Allen mentioned began after a poor Dustin Colquitt punt that traveled just 37 yards and netted the Chiefs just 28 yards. Indy had the ball at its own 33-yard line with six minutes, 59 seconds to play. Fourteen plays and 6:56 later, Adam Vinatieri kicked the game winning field goal with three seconds to play in the game.

In the first half the Chiefs defense, had Manning befuddled. The Colts went seven plays and missed a field goal, five plays and punt, seven plays and another missed field goal, one play and a Jarrad Page interception off a pass tipped by Allen, three plays punt, three plays punt and four plays and a field goal. In the first half, Indy had 27 plays and 73 yards. Addai was averaging 2.6 a carry and Manning was six of 16 for a mere 62 yards with a sack and an interception.

“We got to him, he was frustrated,” said Allen. “But that was the first half.” Manning led a scoring drive in the third quarter that gave the Colts the lead, but Croyle marched the Chiefs down the field soon after on an 11-play drive that ended with a pretty TD throw to Dwayne Bowe.

Thus it was tied late into the fourth quarter.

“We’ve got to seal the deal,” said Allen. “Oh, that jus ticks me off.”

There are a lot of doors that a rebuilding team must walk through in its journey. Yes, whether some want to admit it or not, the Chiefs are rebuilding.Right now after 27 games under Herm Edwards, the Chiefs are 13-14. They’ve lost three straight, yet still remain just a game behind AFC West leader San Diego, with the Chargers coming to Arrowhead in a fortnight.

But the mindset, the culture of this team has changed. After a game where so much went right, they couldn’t seal the deal and they were ticked off for all the right reasons.

Moral victories mean zilch. Still, the Chiefs took another step on Sunday in Indianapolis towards being able to compete and beat the league’s best.

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-19-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Gretz

the Chiefs are rebuilding.

Christ, they've sunk so low they finally come to terms.

Hydrae · 11-19-2007, 04:25 PM

Eh, whatever. Don't tell me how Allen feels like the defense let the team down (absolutely not!), tell me about the offensive players and their comments on the game plan on that side of the ball.

KCJohnny · 11-19-2007, 04:26 PM

I agree with Gretz. That's the hardest game KC will play all year and they almost won. The next 6 are gravy compared to that one.

StcChief · 11-19-2007, 04:29 PM

inept play calling, too many 3- outs. D on field too much.

**HemiEd** · 11-19-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

The drive Allen mentioned began after a poor Dustin Colquitt punt that traveled just 37 yards and netted the Chiefs just 28 yards .

They need to trade Colquitt, he has been overused.

bobbything · 11-19-2007, 04:30 PM

Never before have so many words said so little.

FAX · 11-19-2007, 04:30 PM

The Chiefs PR Department in fine form.

Blaming the D: "... Jared Allen said: “We let the team down. The defense. We couldn’t stop them on that drive late in the game. We allowed them the chance to win the game. That’s on us."

Blaming the punter: "... after a poor Dustin Colquitt punt that traveled just 37 yards and netted the Chiefs just 28 yards ..."

Communicating hope: "... yet still remain just a game behind AFC West leader San Diego, with the Chargers coming to Arrowhead in a fortnight. ..."

Deflecting truth and reinforcing argument: "... they were ticked off for all the right reasons."

Supporting Herm: "... the Chiefs took another step on Sunday in Indianapolis towards being able to compete and beat the league’s best."

All that they left out was blaming the young QB. Dipshitism is too kind a word.

FAX

KCJohnny · 11-19-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

inept play calling, too many 3- outs. D on field too much.

Chiefs won the TOP battle 32:23 to 27:37. Going into the final drive KC had 12 minute advantage.

**the Talking Can** · 11-19-2007, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbything

Never before have so many words said so little.

amen

we should be happy that our team doesn't like losing...wow...Carl is a success based on that, according to Gretz, I guess

Brock · 11-19-2007, 04:46 PM

They lost, but at least they felt bad about it. Yay!

**MahiMike** · 11-19-2007, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

They need to trade Colquitt, he has been overused.

He's worn out! It's ok. Herm will draft 3 more and rotate them in.

Chiefs Pantalones · 11-19-2007, 05:09 PM

Oh **** off, Gretz, you piece of shit.

That other lockerroom was smothered with injuries to key players. If they would've been healthy they would've wiped us off the field.

**Rausch** · 11-19-2007, 05:14 PM

Consistently losing by a small margin is not anwhere ****ing close to always winning by a small margin. The difference in the game might only be 5 pts but being a team that is able to get them or not is what seperates the Patriots or Colts from everyone else.

Doing what you have to do to be competitive is miles from doing what you need to do to win. We're not winners yet...

Deberg_1990 · 11-19-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

They need to trade Colquitt, he has been overused.

Agreed. Everyone knows the history of Punters who punt over 70 times in a season. They break down. Get rid of him.

11-19-2007, 04:20 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $602813	GRETZ: Accomplishing Something http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/11...ing_something/ INDIANAPOLIS – If you doubt whether the Chiefs have accomplished anything in 27 games of Herm Ball over the last two seasons, then you should have been in the visitor’s locker room at the RCA Dome after their 13-10 loss on Sunday to the Colts. In that room was a group of ticked off football players. They were mad. They were frustrated with the game’s outcome. For most of this afternoon, the Chiefs had played better football than the Colts. Yet, they ended up with another loss, their third straight. There was no talk of moral victories, no talk of fighting the good fight against tough odds. Coming into the game, the boys in Las Vegas had set the Chiefs as 14_-point underdogs. Nobody gave them a chance. The Colts are the defending Super Bowl champions and they had lost two in a row. Sure, they had some injuries, but they still had Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, Joseph Addai, Dallas Clark, Bob Sanders and a host of other more obscure, but very talented players. Plus, they were playing at home, a place where whether the crowd noise is enhanced or not, it’s very loud and difficult for the visitors. Against these long odds, the Chiefs played the Colts toe-to-toe. They rattled Manning, they took Clark out of the game and for the most part controlled the running of Addai. The offense continued to have its problems (see the offensive line), but Brodie Croyle looked cool and confident in his first NFL start. Coming close and just missing the victory would be enough for some. Dare say, it may have been enough for many on this team say early last year. Not so on this day, and with this team. After a game where the Chiefs defense turned in one of its most impressive showings in the last decade, Jared Allen said: “We let the team down. The defense. We couldn’t stop them on that drive late in the game. We allowed them the chance to win the game. That’s on us. “A good game. That’s crap. We lost.” The drive Allen mentioned began after a poor Dustin Colquitt punt that traveled just 37 yards and netted the Chiefs just 28 yards. Indy had the ball at its own 33-yard line with six minutes, 59 seconds to play. Fourteen plays and 6:56 later, Adam Vinatieri kicked the game winning field goal with three seconds to play in the game. In the first half the Chiefs defense, had Manning befuddled. The Colts went seven plays and missed a field goal, five plays and punt, seven plays and another missed field goal, one play and a Jarrad Page interception off a pass tipped by Allen, three plays punt, three plays punt and four plays and a field goal. In the first half, Indy had 27 plays and 73 yards. Addai was averaging 2.6 a carry and Manning was six of 16 for a mere 62 yards with a sack and an interception. “We got to him, he was frustrated,” said Allen. “But that was the first half.” Manning led a scoring drive in the third quarter that gave the Colts the lead, but Croyle marched the Chiefs down the field soon after on an 11-play drive that ended with a pretty TD throw to Dwayne Bowe. Thus it was tied late into the fourth quarter. “We’ve got to seal the deal,” said Allen. “Oh, that jus ticks me off.” There are a lot of doors that a rebuilding team must walk through in its journey. Yes, whether some want to admit it or not, the Chiefs are rebuilding.Right now after 27 games under Herm Edwards, the Chiefs are 13-14. They’ve lost three straight, yet still remain just a game behind AFC West leader San Diego, with the Chargers coming to Arrowhead in a fortnight. But the mindset, the culture of this team has changed. After a game where so much went right, they couldn’t seal the deal and they were ticked off for all the right reasons. Moral victories mean zilch. Still, the Chiefs took another step on Sunday in Indianapolis towards being able to compete and beat the league’s best.
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11-19-2007, 04:25 PM	#3
Hydrae Sandbox: Leander Lasercats Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin, Tx Casino cash: $2017000	Eh, whatever. Don't tell me how Allen feels like the defense let the team down (absolutely not!), tell me about the offensive players and their comments on the game plan on that side of the ball.
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11-19-2007, 04:26 PM	#4
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11-19-2007, 04:30 PM	#8
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	The Chiefs PR Department in fine form. Blaming the D: "... Jared Allen said: “We let the team down. The defense. We couldn’t stop them on that drive late in the game. We allowed them the chance to win the game. That’s on us." Blaming the punter: "... after a poor Dustin Colquitt punt that traveled just 37 yards and netted the Chiefs just 28 yards ..." Communicating hope: "... yet still remain just a game behind AFC West leader San Diego, with the Chargers coming to Arrowhead in a fortnight. ..." Deflecting truth and reinforcing argument: "... they were ticked off for all the right reasons." Supporting Herm: "... the Chiefs took another step on Sunday in Indianapolis towards being able to compete and beat the league’s best." All that they left out was blaming the young QB. Dipshitism is too kind a word. FAX
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11-19-2007, 04:46 PM	#11
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