Chiefs 1st Round QB's Lets get Real.

RibKing67 · 08-20-2008, 10:09 PM

I have been doing some research and this is what I have found. I am tired of all the Brodie hate that is going on in this city and on this board so I figured I would see what kind of numbers we could expect if we got the big 1st rounder that alot of people seem to want so badly. Here we go from 1990 to present the QB's taken in the first round.

1. Andre Ware- Bust
2. Jeff George-Bust
3. Dan McGwire-Bust
4. Todd Marinovich-Bust
5. David Klingler-Bust
6. Tommy Maddox-Bust
7. Drew Bledsoe- Superbowl
8 Rick Mirer-Bust
9. Heath Shuler-Bust
10. Trent Dilfer-Superbowl
11. Steve McNair-Superbowl
12. Kerry Collins-Superbowl
13. Jim Druckenmiller-Bust
14. Peyton Manning-Superbowl
15. Ryan Leaf-Bust
16. Tim Couch-Bust
17. Donovan McNabb-Superbowl
18. Akili Smith-Bust
19. Cade McNown-Bust
20. Daunte Culpepper-No Bowl
21. Chad Pennington-No Bowl
22. Michael Vick-Prison
23. David Carr-Back up
24. Joey Harrington-Playing
25. Patrick Ramsey-Playing
26. Rex Grossman-Superbowl
27. Kyle Boller-Playing
28. Byron Leftwich-Not in NFL
29. Carson Palmer-Playing
30. J.P. Losman-Playing
31. Ben Roethlisberger-Superbowl
32. Philip Rivers-Playing
33. Eli Manning-Superbowl
34. Jason Campbell-Playing
35. Aaron Rodgers-Playing
36. Alex Smith-Playing
37. Jay Cutler-Playing
38. Matt Leinart-Playing
39. Vince Young-Playing
40. Brady Quinn-Not Starting
41. JaMarcus Russell-Playng
42. Matt Ryan-Playing
43. Joe Flacco-I have no Idea what the hell he is doing. And dont care. Bust IMO

I believe that is 18 years from 1990 to 2008 could be wrong and if I am someone will be sure to correct me I know. In those 18 years Superbowls with 2 teams in each were played and I count 9 first round QB's that played in a Superbowl, not just winners, since 1990. So out of 36 that is 9. Quick math says that is 25%. I am not even going to go into the likes of Rex, I suck, Grossman and Trent, I wont beat us, Dilfer going to Superbowls on the back of strong Defenses. Come on people how about you pull your heads out of your collective asses and realize that a QB in the first round is not only a long shot but without a TEAM to surround him with it is a waste of a pick (i.e. D.Carr) . Everyone likes to go after the QB when its not going well or jump on his bandwagon when it is, but lets remember that there are 21 other starters on the TEAM that make a huge difference in winning and losing.
Just my thoughts.

Hammock Parties · 08-20-2008, 10:11 PM

George was not a bust, IMO. Maybe for the team that drafted him.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-20-2008, 10:11 PM

So Rex Grossman is in the same league as Peyton Manning?

Awesome.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-20-2008, 10:14 PM

UFAs make the best QBs fo sho

RibKing67 · 08-20-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So Rex Grossman is in the same league as Peyton Manning?

Awesome.

I am saying he went to a SB not putting his stats up there.

I even think I could have gotten the Bears to the big game.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-20-2008, 10:15 PM

HAHA I love the hate on Flacco. He's a rookie.

RibKing67 · 08-20-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

George was not a bust, IMO. Maybe for the team that drafted him.

Are you J. Whitlock?

RibKing67 · 08-20-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

HAHA I love the hate on Flacco. He's a rookie.

That pick was a REACH he would have been there for a couple more rounds for sure.

Reerun_KC · 08-20-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

George was not a bust, IMO. Maybe for the team that drafted him.

Dude, bust 101! Rocket for an arm with 2 cent brain...

Look up Bust in the dictonary and his picture is there!

L.A. Chieffan · 08-20-2008, 10:25 PM

Speaking of first round busts it doesn't get much bigger than that jersey in your avy.

FAX · 08-20-2008, 10:25 PM

How do we figure that Jeff George was not a bust? I always pretty much thought of him as such.

FAX

RibKing67 · 08-20-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Speaking of first round busts it doesn't get much bigger than that jersey in your avy.

Since when is Neil Smith a bust?

Hammock Parties · 08-20-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

How do we figure that Jeff George was not a bust? I always pretty much thought of him as such.

FAX

Look up his career numbers. They don't scream "bust" to me.

Ryan Leaf was a bust. Jeff George was a disappointment who still wowed fans occasionally. If George had hooked up with the right head coach and OC for 10 years, he might have HOF numbers. Not everyone can be as lucky as Troy Aikman.

Reerun_KC · 08-20-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Look up his career numbers. They don't scream "bust" to me.

Ryan Leaf was a bust. Jeff George was a disappointment who still wowed fans occasionally. If George had hooked up with the right head coach and OC for 10 years, he might have HOF numbers. Not everyone can be as lucky as Troy Aikman.

Aikman vs George? your kidding right?

I never seen Aikman cry like a 3$ hooker to his coach on the sideline... George was a basket case, not even the famous Herm Edwards could keep Boy George on a level playing field...

Bust.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-20-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RibKing67

Since when is Neil Smith a bust?

I was talking bout Sims but yeah, Neil Smith is a bitch too.

08-20-2008, 10:09 PM
RibKing67 Heavyweight Champion of Ribs! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Blue Springs, MO Casino cash: $10004900	1st Round QB's Lets get Real. I have been doing some research and this is what I have found. I am tired of all the Brodie hate that is going on in this city and on this board so I figured I would see what kind of numbers we could expect if we got the big 1st rounder that alot of people seem to want so badly. Here we go from 1990 to present the QB's taken in the first round. 1. Andre Ware- Bust 2. Jeff George-Bust 3. Dan McGwire-Bust 4. Todd Marinovich-Bust 5. David Klingler-Bust 6. Tommy Maddox-Bust 7. Drew Bledsoe- Superbowl 8 Rick Mirer-Bust 9. Heath Shuler-Bust 10. Trent Dilfer-Superbowl 11. Steve McNair-Superbowl 12. Kerry Collins-Superbowl 13. Jim Druckenmiller-Bust 14. Peyton Manning-Superbowl 15. Ryan Leaf-Bust 16. Tim Couch-Bust 17. Donovan McNabb-Superbowl 18. Akili Smith-Bust 19. Cade McNown-Bust 20. Daunte Culpepper-No Bowl 21. Chad Pennington-No Bowl 22. Michael Vick-Prison 23. David Carr-Back up 24. Joey Harrington-Playing 25. Patrick Ramsey-Playing 26. Rex Grossman-Superbowl 27. Kyle Boller-Playing 28. Byron Leftwich-Not in NFL 29. Carson Palmer-Playing 30. J.P. Losman-Playing 31. Ben Roethlisberger-Superbowl 32. Philip Rivers-Playing 33. Eli Manning-Superbowl 34. Jason Campbell-Playing 35. Aaron Rodgers-Playing 36. Alex Smith-Playing 37. Jay Cutler-Playing 38. Matt Leinart-Playing 39. Vince Young-Playing 40. Brady Quinn-Not Starting 41. JaMarcus Russell-Playng 42. Matt Ryan-Playing 43. Joe Flacco-I have no Idea what the hell he is doing. And dont care. Bust IMO I believe that is 18 years from 1990 to 2008 could be wrong and if I am someone will be sure to correct me I know. In those 18 years Superbowls with 2 teams in each were played and I count 9 first round QB's that played in a Superbowl, not just winners, since 1990. So out of 36 that is 9. Quick math says that is 25%. I am not even going to go into the likes of Rex, I suck, Grossman and Trent, I wont beat us, Dilfer going to Superbowls on the back of strong Defenses. Come on people how about you pull your heads out of your collective asses and realize that a QB in the first round is not only a long shot but without a TEAM to surround him with it is a waste of a pick (i.e. D.Carr) . Everyone likes to go after the QB when its not going well or jump on his bandwagon when it is, but lets remember that there are 21 other starters on the TEAM that make a huge difference in winning and losing. Just my thoughts.
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