Chiefs Cassel my two cents.

MGRS13 · 09-21-2009, 01:54 PM

First off Cassel did some things that really impressed me yesterday. Well not like top tier QB type impressing but more like I haven't seen an NFL caliber QB play in KC for three years type impressing. Cassel more then anything had pocket presence. That is something I haven't seen here since Green. He moved in the pocket well he sinced the rush and he scrambled ONLY when he had too. Also while he was moving/scrambling he kept his eyes down field, all of this was rather refreshing. However(go chiefs get ready to start typing) he is not a "franchise quarterback." Here is why. At the end of the game he had plenty PLENTY of time to drive his team down field and put them in field goal position. Don't give me the Oline WR bullshit line. A "franchise quarterback" moves the team against all odds. That is what makes them stand out above the other typical QB's in the league. And yes you do, do it the first time you have the chance and the next time and the next time. Cassel is an ok QB and will win some games but he is not the guy that will be back there for 10-12 years and always putting fear into any team we play just because he has a jersey on. He doesn't have "IT" or we would have seen it yesterday.

**DeezNutz** · 09-21-2009, 01:59 PM

I wonder where we could have found a player with that "it" factor? Has this been discussed on here before?

DrRyan · 09-21-2009, 02:00 PM

What concerned me most about his last drive with a minute of so remaining was that he seems so concerned with getting in the end zone right now he seemed to forget he need to pick up the first down. No reason to sling it down the field every down. Pick up the first down, matriculate the ball down the field. He needed to hurry yes, but with time outs left, he could have been a little more calm/relaxed/aware, etc.

**The Franchise** · 09-21-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I wonder where we could have found a player with that "it" factor? Has this been discussed on here before?

*cough*Mark Sanchez*cough*

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-21-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

*cough*Mark Sanchez*cough*

According to the majority of people in this forum, Sanchez will be a bust.

DrRyan · 09-21-2009, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I wonder where we could have found a player with that "it" factor? Has this been discussed on here before?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

*cough*Mark Sanchez*cough*

It will never stop. Sanchez, thus far, has been asked to not lose the games and let the defense do the heavy lifting. Kind of apples to oranges comparing the Jets and Chiefs at this point...

**wazu** · 09-21-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

First off Cassel did some things that really impressed me yesterday. Well not like top tier QB type impressing but more like I haven't seen an NFL caliber QB play in KC for three years type impressing. Cassel more then anything had pocket presence. That is something I haven't seen here since Green. He moved in the pocket well he sinced the rush and he scrambled ONLY when he had too. Also while he was moving/scrambling he kept his eyes down field, all of this was rather refreshing. However(go chiefs get ready to start typing) he is not a "franchise quarterback." Here is why. At the end of the game he had plenty PLENTY of time to drive his team down field and put them in field goal position. Don't give me the Oline WR bullshit line. A "franchise quarterback" moves the team against all odds. That is what makes them stand out above the other typical QB's in the league. And yes you do, do it the first time you have the chance and the next time and the next time. Cassel is an ok QB and will win some games but he is not the guy that will be back there for 10-12 years and always putting fear into any team we play just because he has a jersey on. He doesn't have "IT" or we would have seen it yesterday.

Until two years ago, everybody was saying the same thing about Eli Manning. I think most would concede he is a franchise QB now.

Mr. Laz · 09-21-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

He moved in the pocket well he sinced the rush and he scrambled ONLY when he had too

I disagree completely

One of the biggest problems with Cassell yesterday was that he was jumping at ghosts all day. Even when the pass rush wasn't their yet he was jumping around.

**The Franchise** · 09-21-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan

It will never stop. Sanchez, thus far, has been asked to not lose the games and let the defense do the heavy lifting. Kind of apples to oranges comparing the Jets and Chiefs at this point...

**The Franchise** · 09-21-2009, 02:05 PM

I've said it before....and I'll ****ing say it again.

This team would have been better off with this:

1st round - Mark Sanchez
2nd round - Ron Brace/Clint Sintim/etc....

then this:

1st round - Tyson Jackson
2nd round - Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel

**DeezNutz** · 09-21-2009, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

According to the majority of people in this forum, Sanchez will be a bust.

Why aren't you a GM if you're so genious?

The Gang of 14 rides on...

**DeezNutz** · 09-21-2009, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam

Until two years ago, everybody was saying the same thing about Eli Manning. I think most would concede he is a franchise QB now.

Not on this forum.

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-21-2009, 02:08 PM

One game coming off an injury and you have reached that conclusion?? Really???

Mr. Laz · 09-21-2009, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I've said it before....and I'll ****ing say it again.

This team would have been better off with this:

1st round - Mark Sanchez
2nd round - Ron Brace/Clint Sintim/etc....

then this:

1st round - Tyson Jackson
2nd round - Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel

I've said it before ... and i'll ****ing say it again.

Mark Sanchez can die in a ****ing fire fueled by a cut down aids tree.

**TinyEvel** · 09-21-2009, 02:09 PM

I agree somewhat. A true stud would have made it to the other end of the field and got us at least in Succop range. I mean, the friggen RAIDERS Ja-tossup Russel did it just minutes prior. And you can't blame a worn defense like the Baltimore game.

How many damn games have there been (last week and last season) where the other team executes a 4th quarter drive against us to take the lead and we have a 2-minute offense to respond and cannot answer. It friggen feels like in almost every game I'm sitting there looking at our offense with the ball in the end of the 4th, and PRAYING "God please let it work this time, let them make it." And...goose-egg.

I know, it's getting better (or, less bad) a bit at a time, but man, Sundays are starting to feel like the movie Groundhog day.

One other thing I noticed was Cassel was back there or scrambling for a LONG time and ended up tossing it away. Were our receivers having trouble getting open?

09-21-2009, 01:54 PM
MGRS13 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Home in KC Casino cash: $10074930	Cassel my two cents. First off Cassel did some things that really impressed me yesterday. Well not like top tier QB type impressing but more like I haven't seen an NFL caliber QB play in KC for three years type impressing. Cassel more then anything had pocket presence. That is something I haven't seen here since Green. He moved in the pocket well he sinced the rush and he scrambled ONLY when he had too. Also while he was moving/scrambling he kept his eyes down field, all of this was rather refreshing. However(go chiefs get ready to start typing) he is not a "franchise quarterback." Here is why. At the end of the game he had plenty PLENTY of time to drive his team down field and put them in field goal position. Don't give me the Oline WR bullshit line. A "franchise quarterback" moves the team against all odds. That is what makes them stand out above the other typical QB's in the league. And yes you do, do it the first time you have the chance and the next time and the next time. Cassel is an ok QB and will win some games but he is not the guy that will be back there for 10-12 years and always putting fear into any team we play just because he has a jersey on. He doesn't have "IT" or we would have seen it yesterday.
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09-21-2009, 02:00 PM	#3
DrRyan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: AZ Casino cash: $6871721	What concerned me most about his last drive with a minute of so remaining was that he seems so concerned with getting in the end zone right now he seemed to forget he need to pick up the first down. No reason to sling it down the field every down. Pick up the first down, matriculate the ball down the field. He needed to hurry yes, but with time outs left, he could have been a little more calm/relaxed/aware, etc.
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09-21-2009, 02:05 PM	#10
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2685047	I've said it before....and I'll ****ing say it again. This team would have been better off with this: 1st round - Mark Sanchez 2nd round - Ron Brace/Clint Sintim/etc.... then this: 1st round - Tyson Jackson 2nd round - Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel
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09-21-2009, 02:08 PM	#13
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $3568880	One game coming off an injury and you have reached that conclusion?? Really???
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09-21-2009, 02:09 PM	#15
TinyEvel Just a li'l Evel Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bald. Goatee. Jorts. Casino cash: $5237131	I agree somewhat. A true stud would have made it to the other end of the field and got us at least in Succop range. I mean, the friggen RAIDERS Ja-tossup Russel did it just minutes prior. And you can't blame a worn defense like the Baltimore game. How many damn games have there been (last week and last season) where the other team executes a 4th quarter drive against us to take the lead and we have a 2-minute offense to respond and cannot answer. It friggen feels like in almost every game I'm sitting there looking at our offense with the ball in the end of the 4th, and PRAYING "God please let it work this time, let them make it." And...goose-egg. I know, it's getting better (or, less bad) a bit at a time, but man, Sundays are starting to feel like the movie Groundhog day. One other thing I noticed was Cassel was back there or scrambling for a LONG time and ended up tossing it away. Were our receivers having trouble getting open?
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