Football HOF question - Reeves vs Dungy

Mile High Mania · 07-06-2010, 01:16 PM

I saw a poll recently that asked the question of whether or not either of these coaches was a "Hall of Fame" coach. Tony Dungy was an overwhelming "YES" and Reeves was extremely borderline.

You can compare their bodies of work at www.profootballreference.com

What do you guys think?

Micjones · 07-06-2010, 01:23 PM

Dungy.
-10 fewer years and only one less Division Title.
-10 fewer years about only 51 fewer games.
-Superbowl ring.
-Only had double digit losses in one season his entire career.
-Twice as many wins as losses.

Brock · 07-06-2010, 01:25 PM

For some reason, Marv Levy is in, so I don't see why Reeves shouldn't be.

mikey23545 · 07-06-2010, 01:31 PM

I would probably lean towards Reeves...A lot longer career, went to 4 Super Bowls with 2 different teams, a lot more wins.

Sure, Dungy won one SB, and has a better winning percentage but I think longevity with a long record of winning teams trumps that.

Barely.

Mile High Mania · 07-06-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Dungy.
-10 fewer years and only one less Division Title.
-10 fewer years about only 51 fewer games.
-Superbowl ring.
-Only had double digit losses in one season his entire career.
-Twice as many wins as losses.

Sure, but prior to coaching Peyton Manning, Dungy was 45-42 overall with the Bucs. Dungy takes over Indy, in Peyton's 5th season and they go on a roll. Dungy took over a pretty loaded roster.

Dan Reeves didn't do too much after Denver, aside from a few good seasons and the SB appearance... but, overall he still has a very solid body of work and like someone else said, Levy is in the HOF.

I'm not suggesting that Dungy isn't qualified, but if he's a lock now... they better put in Jimmy Johnson pretty fast with his record of 80 and 64 with 2 titles. Hell, Barry Switzer was 64-40 in his 4 years with a SB title. Switzer did the same thing Dungy did ... took over a very talented team.

**HemiEd** · 07-06-2010, 03:55 PM

I don't think either one of them belong in the HOF. Dungy had a great QB and is a feel good story, but that shouldn't give him the ticket in. Reeves was a hard worker, for a long time, but not enough IMO.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why Levy made it, but he is an extremely smart ****er, so he managed to politic the right people.

**cdcox** · 07-06-2010, 04:04 PM

I wouldn't put either one of them in.

Bud Grant also seems to be a question mark. No championships, no major innovations, 21st in regular season win %, 12th in total wins. I just don't see it.

Sanka · 07-06-2010, 04:07 PM

Dungy is a fruad. Peyton should have won more titles if he had a better HC.

**CrazyPhuD** · 07-06-2010, 04:16 PM

Dungy's black he's going in....

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-King- · 07-06-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka

Dungy is a fruad. Peyton should have won more titles if he had a better HC.

Or if he wasnt a **** up in the post season. Just a thought.
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**Rain Man** · 07-06-2010, 04:34 PM

I'd vote for Reeves over Dungy, but I think a coach has to be legendary to get in. Neither of those coaches is legendary.

-King- · 07-06-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'd vote for Reeves over Dungy, but I think a coach has to be legendary to get in. Neither of those coaches is legendary.

This.
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**Saul Good** · 07-06-2010, 07:05 PM

Reeves couldn't co-exist with one of the 3 best QBs in the history of the game. No HOF.

ClevelandBronco · 07-06-2010, 07:08 PM

Neither one.

Zebedee DuBois · 07-06-2010, 07:21 PM

If either gets in, they would be riding in on their QB's talent. ...although there is something to be said for the ability to get out of the way so a player's talent can shine.

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07-06-2010, 01:23 PM	#2
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Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	For some reason, Marv Levy is in, so I don't see why Reeves shouldn't be.
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mikey23545 MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10015321	I would probably lean towards Reeves...A lot longer career, went to 4 Super Bowls with 2 different teams, a lot more wins. Sure, Dungy won one SB, and has a better winning percentage but I think longevity with a long record of winning teams trumps that. Barely.
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HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-329436	I don't think either one of them belong in the HOF. Dungy had a great QB and is a feel good story, but that shouldn't give him the ticket in. Reeves was a hard worker, for a long time, but not enough IMO. For the life of me, I can't figure out why Levy made it, but he is an extremely smart ****er, so he managed to politic the right people.
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cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-478231	I wouldn't put either one of them in. Bud Grant also seems to be a question mark. No championships, no major innovations, 21st in regular season win %, 12th in total wins. I just don't see it.
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Sanka Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Casino cash: $-1373023	Dungy is a fruad. Peyton should have won more titles if he had a better HC.
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Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-502449 VARSITY	I'd vote for Reeves over Dungy, but I think a coach has to be legendary to get in. Neither of those coaches is legendary. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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