Chiefs Planeteers: Rate the Draft

**Mr. Kotter** · 06:48 PM

Vote, and then tell us what you think.

What does the Planet have to say??? Your grade for the draft, please?

Then, tell us why.....

Kansas City Chiefs

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/tracke...-team-input:kc

Needs Analysis: The Chiefs will face a first-place schedule and need to get better in order to duplicate the 10-6 mark that won the division a year ago. A young nose tackle like Baylor's Phil Taylor would make sense in the first round, especially considering how general manager Scott Pioli built the Patriots with defensive linemen taken early in drafts. A wide receiver opposite Dwayne Bowe would help open up the passing game and keep opponents from rolling coverage to his side of the field. I signed center Casey Wiegmann coming out of college as an undrafted free agent in 1996 and he is still playing at a Pro Bowl level. Even though he missed just one game over the last 10 years, it is time to add a young center. There might be a temptation to take an offensive tackle if a top prospect is still on the board at No. 21.

Round 1, Pick 26 (26) (From Falcons through Browns)

Jonathan Baldwin
WR
6'4"
228
Pittsburgh

Pick Analysis: Todd Hailey identifies an explosive complementary receiver to pair with Dwayne Bowe. Baldwin has remarkable athleticism and skills, but hasn't been consistent throughout his career. However, his potential is off the charts, and he could become a difference maker in the Chiefs' vertical passing game.

Round 2, Pick 23 (55)

Rodney Hudson
OL
6'2"
299
Florida St.

Pick Analysis: Scott Pioli addresses the Chiefs' biggest offensive need with the selection of Hudson. He brings strength, power and toughness to the interior of their offensive line as a potential guard or center. This should help Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones find plenty of running room between the tackles.

Round 3, Pick 6 (70) (From Browns)

Justin Houston
LB
6'3"
270
Georgia

Pick Analysis: The Chiefs nab a first-round talent with the selection of Houston. He is an explosive pass rusher with the initial quickness and burst to consistently pressure the passer off the edges. Though he suffered a dramatic slip on draft day due to some character concerns, he gives them a big-time playmaker along their defensive front.

Round 3, Pick 22 (86)

Allen Bailey
DL
6'3"
285
Miami

Pick Analysis: The Chiefs pick up a versatile frontline player with the addition of Bailey. He has played defensive end and tackle during his career at Miami but looks like a solid five-technique with the Chiefs. He will be counted on to add some juice and playmaking to the defense as a rotational player.

Round 4, Pick 21 (118)

Jalil Brown
DB
6'1"
204
Colorado

Pick Analysis: Romeo Crennel gets another talented cover man to incorporate into his defense. Brown has good instincts and physical skills, and could become a key contributor as part of their sub-package on passing downs.

Round 5, Pick 4 (135) (From Broncos through Buccaneers)

Ricky Stanzi
QB
6'4"
223
Iowa

Pick Analysis: The former Hawkeye is a classic developmental prospect at the position. He has outstanding intangibles and understands how to quickly work through his progressions in the pocket. He could be a valuable backup option for the Chiefs.

Round 5, Pick 9 (140) (From Lions)

Gabe Miller
OLB
6'3"
257
Oregon St.

Pick Analysis: The Chiefs pick up another young linebacker to incorporate into their defensive rotation. He will vie for time immediately as a special teams player.

Round 6, Pick 34 (199) (Compensatory Selection)

Jerrell Powe
DL
6'2"
335
Mississippi

Pick Analysis: Powe has power and is able to fight through double teams. He has a chance to get snaps on a situational basis in the Chiefs' scheme.

Round 7, Pick 20 (223)

Shane Bannon
FB
265
Yale

Mr. Laz · 04-30-2011, 06:42 PM

non-public poll fail

**Mr. Kotter** · 04-30-2011, 06:43 PM

I know I use to do a much more thorough, and personal take, on the draft....but just don't have the time these days....yet I still want a sense for what others are thinking.

**Mr. Kotter** · 04-30-2011, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

non-public poll fail

MODS: can you fix this???

Please????

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-30-2011, 06:48 PM

A-.

The Miller pick was terrible and the Bannon pick was pretty shitty too.

Still, great draft.

**Mr. Kotter** · 04-30-2011, 06:49 PM

Anyone know?

Can the Mod-gods fix that--and make the poll public, for us???

**cdcox** · 04-30-2011, 06:50 PM

**Gadzooks** · 04-30-2011, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Anyone know?

Can the Mod-gods fix that--and make the poll public, for us???

I hope not.

Mr. Laz · 04-30-2011, 06:52 PM

The Chiefs took their best shot in this draft imo.

They even took players whose character didn't live up to the bill because they wanted the best talent. They took some guys who upsides are great but might have a caveat.

Baldwin - superb talent but has attitude
Houston - outstanding athlete and elite talent ... motivational issues
Powe - Huge upside ... 1st round size and talent. Tiny little brain.

if these 3 reach anywhere near their potential this was an outstanding draft.

**Mr. Kotter** · 04-30-2011, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zooks

I hope not.

Heh...you voted F-, eh? And don't want neg-repped into CP hell, eh?

**cdcox** · 04-30-2011, 06:54 PM

Look at it this way, if someone had said we were going to get

Baldwin
Hudson
Houston
Baily
Stanzi
Powe

before the draft started, people would say you were on crack.

**Gadzooks** · 04-30-2011, 06:55 PM

Gotta say I was curious about the Bailey and Powe picks. It seems like they added them for situational depth but the board seems to think they're going to be saviours for the defense.
Does anyone have a take on this?

**BossChief** · 04-30-2011, 06:59 PM

A+

We came in with serious needs at prominent positions and came out with unimaginable value at almost all of our picks.

Our biggest needs, in order of importance IMO:

WR - Baldwin
NT - Powe
C - Hudson
OLB - Houston, Miller
RT
QB2 - Stanzi
WR3

In a bad draft you get`1 contributor and not much else
In a average draft, you get one starter and a couple role players
In a good draft, you get two starters and a couple role players
In a very good draft you get a difference maker and a couple starters

in a draft like we just had, we have added 3 possible probowl caliber talents and a couple starters and a couple role players.

3 of the last 4 drafts have been homeruns.

Mr. Laz · 04-30-2011, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zooks

Gotta say I was curious about the Bailey and Powe picks. It seems like they added them for situational depth but the board seems to think they're going to be saviours for the defense.
Does anyone have a take on this?

Powe's upside is huge, going by talent he's the 2nd ranked NT in the draft imo.

1. Phil Taylor
2. Jerrell Powe

but apparently he's almost completely illiterate and drop like a rock in the draft.

patteeu · 04-30-2011, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Anyone know?

Can the Mod-gods fix that--and make the poll public, for us???

It would be bad form to change a poll from private to public after votes have been cast.

View Poll Results: What's YOUR grade for Pioli and Company's draft?
A+	17	10.30%
A	50	30.30%
A-	42	25.45%
B+	29	17.58%
B	15	9.09%
B-	6	3.64%
C+	1	0.61%
C	1	0.61%
C-	0	0%
D+	0	0%
D	0	0%
D-	0	0%
F+	0	0%
F	0	0%
F-	2	1.21%
Whatever GAZ says...	2	1.21%
Voters: 165. You may not vote on this poll

04-30-2011, 06:34 PM
Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $5705285	Planeteers: Rate the Draft Vote, and then tell us what you think. What does the Planet have to say??? Your grade for the draft, please? Then, tell us why..... Kansas City Chiefs http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/tracke...-team-input:kc Needs Analysis: The Chiefs will face a first-place schedule and need to get better in order to duplicate the 10-6 mark that won the division a year ago. A young nose tackle like Baylor's Phil Taylor would make sense in the first round, especially considering how general manager Scott Pioli built the Patriots with defensive linemen taken early in drafts. A wide receiver opposite Dwayne Bowe would help open up the passing game and keep opponents from rolling coverage to his side of the field. I signed center Casey Wiegmann coming out of college as an undrafted free agent in 1996 and he is still playing at a Pro Bowl level. Even though he missed just one game over the last 10 years, it is time to add a young center. There might be a temptation to take an offensive tackle if a top prospect is still on the board at No. 21. Round 1, Pick 26 (26) (From Falcons through Browns) Jonathan Baldwin WR 6'4" 228 Pittsburgh Pick Analysis: Todd Hailey identifies an explosive complementary receiver to pair with Dwayne Bowe. Baldwin has remarkable athleticism and skills, but hasn't been consistent throughout his career. However, his potential is off the charts, and he could become a difference maker in the Chiefs' vertical passing game. Round 2, Pick 23 (55) Rodney Hudson OL 6'2" 299 Florida St. Pick Analysis: Scott Pioli addresses the Chiefs' biggest offensive need with the selection of Hudson. He brings strength, power and toughness to the interior of their offensive line as a potential guard or center. This should help Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones find plenty of running room between the tackles. Round 3, Pick 6 (70) (From Browns) Justin Houston LB 6'3" 270 Georgia Pick Analysis: The Chiefs nab a first-round talent with the selection of Houston. He is an explosive pass rusher with the initial quickness and burst to consistently pressure the passer off the edges. Though he suffered a dramatic slip on draft day due to some character concerns, he gives them a big-time playmaker along their defensive front. Round 3, Pick 22 (86) Allen Bailey DL 6'3" 285 Miami Pick Analysis: The Chiefs pick up a versatile frontline player with the addition of Bailey. He has played defensive end and tackle during his career at Miami but looks like a solid five-technique with the Chiefs. He will be counted on to add some juice and playmaking to the defense as a rotational player. Round 4, Pick 21 (118) Jalil Brown DB 6'1" 204 Colorado Pick Analysis: Romeo Crennel gets another talented cover man to incorporate into his defense. Brown has good instincts and physical skills, and could become a key contributor as part of their sub-package on passing downs. Round 5, Pick 4 (135) (From Broncos through Buccaneers) Ricky Stanzi QB 6'4" 223 Iowa Pick Analysis: The former Hawkeye is a classic developmental prospect at the position. He has outstanding intangibles and understands how to quickly work through his progressions in the pocket. He could be a valuable backup option for the Chiefs. Round 5, Pick 9 (140) (From Lions) Gabe Miller OLB 6'3" 257 Oregon St. Pick Analysis: The Chiefs pick up another young linebacker to incorporate into their defensive rotation. He will vie for time immediately as a special teams player. Round 6, Pick 34 (199) (Compensatory Selection) Jerrell Powe DL 6'2" 335 Mississippi Pick Analysis: Powe has power and is able to fight through double teams. He has a chance to get snaps on a situational basis in the Chiefs' scheme. Round 7, Pick 20 (223) Shane Bannon FB 265 Yale Last edited by Mr. Kotter; 04-30-2011 at 06:48 PM..
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Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $5705285	I know I use to do a much more thorough, and personal take, on the draft....but just don't have the time these days....yet I still want a sense for what others are thinking. __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7959572	A-. The Miller pick was terrible and the Bannon pick was pretty shitty too. Still, great draft. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $5705285	Anyone know? Can the Mod-gods fix that--and make the poll public, for us??? __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	The Chiefs took their best shot in this draft imo. They even took players whose character didn't live up to the bill because they wanted the best talent. They took some guys who upsides are great but might have a caveat. Baldwin - superb talent but has attitude Houston - outstanding athlete and elite talent ... motivational issues Powe - Huge upside ... 1st round size and talent. Tiny little brain. if these 3 reach anywhere near their potential this was an outstanding draft. __________________
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cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2211769	Look at it this way, if someone had said we were going to get Baldwin Hudson Houston Baily Stanzi Powe before the draft started, people would say you were on crack.
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Gadzooks MFIC Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Casino cash: $3819219	Gotta say I was curious about the Bailey and Powe picks. It seems like they added them for situational depth but the board seems to think they're going to be saviours for the defense. Does anyone have a take on this?
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04-30-2011, 06:59 PM	#13
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1624088	A+ We came in with serious needs at prominent positions and came out with unimaginable value at almost all of our picks. Our biggest needs, in order of importance IMO: WR - Baldwin NT - Powe C - Hudson OLB - Houston, Miller RT QB2 - Stanzi WR3 In a bad draft you get`1 contributor and not much else In a average draft, you get one starter and a couple role players In a good draft, you get two starters and a couple role players In a very good draft you get a difference maker and a couple starters in a draft like we just had, we have added 3 possible probowl caliber talents and a couple starters and a couple role players. 3 of the last 4 drafts have been homeruns. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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