Chiefs Brian Billick-Peyton Manning fits best with these three teams.

GoHuge · 03-01-2012, 03:55 PM

Perfectly laid out and plausible explanation of why it could/should happen, but...........yeah you know. Pioli=

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/p...t-sense-030112

The Indianapolis Colts hold the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the first time they have held the No. 1 overall pick since . . . Peyton Manning.

Manning was the top pick in the 1998 draft, also the first Colts draft orchestrated by Bill Polian. The Colts went 3-13 in Manning and Polian’s inaugural season, but they had an NFL-record turnaround in Year 2, going 13-3. And they never looked back. Until now.

One by one, the Colts' staff was ripped apart. It started on Nov. 29, when the Colts fired defensive coordinator Larry Coyer. Then, on Jan. 2, the Colts announced the firing of both Bill Polian and his son Chris Polian, the general manager. Shortly after hiring the Eagles’ director of player personnel, Ryan Grigson, as new GM, the Colts then fired head coach Jim Caldwell. Now, with medical questions looming and a potential future franchise quarterback landing in their laps, the Colts appear ready to finalize the rebuilding process by cutting ties with Manning.

Assuming the Colts start from scratch, it will provide another franchise the opportunity to add the final piece to a Super Bowl-contending roster. Manning will still need to clear medically, but let’s assume that he will, because if he doesn’t, then this is all for naught anyway. If healthy, Manning will be the most sought-after free-agent since Reggie White and could be reminiscent of Joe Montana leaving San Francisco, albeit via trade, to lead the Kansas City Chiefs to an AFC Championship Game appearance the very next year.

The franchise that acquires Manning must be aware of what they are getting. Similar to the Montana trade, the Chiefs knew they were only getting a short-term fix, a Band-Aid, rather than a long-term solution. I refer to this as “renting” a franchise quarterback.

Ideally, the 35-year-old Manning will give you three years of solid play. That is assuming he can avoid future injuries and deal with his degenerative nerve issue. Montana was able to play only two seasons in Kansas City before retiring. Brett Favre, rented by both the Jets and Vikings, had only three seasons left in his aging arm after he left the Packers. So if Manning’s Band-Aid can stick for even three years, his future team should be satisfied.

It is also important to note that you not only are renting Manning’s arm, but you also rent what equates to a brand-new offensive coordinator and playbook. Let’s face it: Manning isn’t going to learn a brand-new offense at this point in his career, nor should he have to. He will bring his offense, his verbiage, his audible package, and might even bring his favorite receiver wherever he signs.

This might actually be a bigger turnoff than turn-on — not only would you be applying a Band-Aid as a short-term fix, but you are also potentially setting your franchise back by putting aside your own offensive scheme to run an entirely different one during the Manning years. When the Chiefs brought in Montana, they installed his offense and made it to the AFC Championship Game in 1993 and another playoff appearance in 1994, but the Chiefs haven’t won a playoff game since. Montana was good in the short term, but might have derailed the long-term outlook. That will be a major factor for the potential suitors in the Manning sweepstakes.

Seattle limped through the season with Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst at quarterback. Although the Seahawks showed gradual improvement throughout the season, they never truly had an offensive identity. Marshawn Lynch provides a steady running game, and the presence of Manning at quarterback would give them a balanced attack that would only make Lynch more successful. After spending their first two draft picks in last year’s draft on offensive linemen, this is, obviously, the strength of their team.

The Seahawks’ ability to keep Manning upright will be very attractive to a quarterback who is very much a pocket passer. Seattle doesn’t necessarily have the wide receivers the others have, but with the possible addition of Reggie Wayne and a healthy Sidney Rice, they would be good enough.

As for the Chiefs, they would need to improve their offensive line, but they have a great roster of skill players who would be very attractive to Manning. I believe they will get Dwayne Bowe re-signed. And when they do, they will have Bowe and Jon Baldwin on the outside, with Steve Breaston in the slot. After sitting out all of last season, tight end Tony Moeaki will return to the lineup and add another dimension to the offense.

Additionally, running back Jamaal Charles will return after missing the majority of last season, which would give Manning the Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai type of presence that he has come to lean on at running back. But maybe most important for the Chiefs, after firing the offensive-minded Todd Haley and the ensuing retirement of last year’s offensive coordinator, Bill Muir, they haven’t yet installed a new offensive scheme. Brian Daboll, formerly of the Dolphins, is the new offensive coordinator but would be most willing to take on Manning and his entire offense.

The New York Jets make sense simply because of Rex Ryan’s willingness to do anything to win. Even with the recent hire of Tony Sparano as offensive coordinator and the thought that he would bring a toughness and focus to the run game, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ryan pulled an entire 180 and rented Manning for three years.

In the city of New York, where the Jets and Giants are always fighting for bragging rights, this would give Ryan the prime opportunity to steal the spotlight from the Giants after their Super Bowl championship and give Jets fans hope for near-term success. Let’s not forget, aside from Mark Brunell, Mark Sanchez has never had the opportunity to learn from an established veteran quarterback. The opportunity to observe Manning both on the practice field and in the film room would be invaluable to his development. Sanchez could still be the future of the franchise but be groomed and grow into that role rather than be thrust into it.

talastan · 03-01-2012, 03:55 PM

Interesting....

Sofa King · 03-01-2012, 04:15 PM

Sofa King · 03-02-2012, 03:53 PM

This thread sucks.

**The Franchise** · 03-02-2012, 03:53 PM

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-02-2012, 03:54 PM

**pr_capone** · 03-02-2012, 03:54 PM

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Sofa King · 03-02-2012, 03:56 PM

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hahahaha. That caption is perfect.

ToxSocks · 03-02-2012, 03:56 PM

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Okie_Apparition · 03-02-2012, 03:59 PM

Could Brian Schottenheimer kill Peyton
that'd be damn fine tv

damnit

**The Bad Guy** · 03-02-2012, 04:01 PM

Why do the Chiefs need to upgrade the line with Manning? Manning's lines in Indy were dogshit.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-02-2012, 04:02 PM

bishop_74 · 03-02-2012, 04:08 PM

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**BossChief** · 03-02-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Why do the Chiefs need to upgrade the line with Manning? Manning's lines in Indy were dogshit.

Neck

Frankie · 03-02-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

As for the Chiefs, they would need to improve their offensive line, but they have a great roster of skill players who would be very attractive to Manning. I believe they will get Dwayne Bowe re-signed. And when they do, they will have Bowe and Jon Baldwin on the outside, with Steve Breaston in the slot. After sitting out all of last season, tight end Tony Moeaki will return to the lineup and add another dimension to the offense.

Well maybe we should sign Dallas Clark so Peyton feels at home and complete our Hawkeye TE force.

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GoHuge The Truth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10006072	Brian Billick-Peyton Manning fits best with these three teams. Perfectly laid out and plausible explanation of why it could/should happen, but...........yeah you know. Pioli= http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/p...t-sense-030112 The Indianapolis Colts hold the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the first time they have held the No. 1 overall pick since . . . Peyton Manning. Manning was the top pick in the 1998 draft, also the first Colts draft orchestrated by Bill Polian. The Colts went 3-13 in Manning and Polian’s inaugural season, but they had an NFL-record turnaround in Year 2, going 13-3. And they never looked back. Until now. One by one, the Colts' staff was ripped apart. It started on Nov. 29, when the Colts fired defensive coordinator Larry Coyer. Then, on Jan. 2, the Colts announced the firing of both Bill Polian and his son Chris Polian, the general manager. Shortly after hiring the Eagles’ director of player personnel, Ryan Grigson, as new GM, the Colts then fired head coach Jim Caldwell. Now, with medical questions looming and a potential future franchise quarterback landing in their laps, the Colts appear ready to finalize the rebuilding process by cutting ties with Manning. Assuming the Colts start from scratch, it will provide another franchise the opportunity to add the final piece to a Super Bowl-contending roster. Manning will still need to clear medically, but let’s assume that he will, because if he doesn’t, then this is all for naught anyway. If healthy, Manning will be the most sought-after free-agent since Reggie White and could be reminiscent of Joe Montana leaving San Francisco, albeit via trade, to lead the Kansas City Chiefs to an AFC Championship Game appearance the very next year. The franchise that acquires Manning must be aware of what they are getting. Similar to the Montana trade, the Chiefs knew they were only getting a short-term fix, a Band-Aid, rather than a long-term solution. I refer to this as “renting” a franchise quarterback. Ideally, the 35-year-old Manning will give you three years of solid play. That is assuming he can avoid future injuries and deal with his degenerative nerve issue. Montana was able to play only two seasons in Kansas City before retiring. Brett Favre, rented by both the Jets and Vikings, had only three seasons left in his aging arm after he left the Packers. So if Manning’s Band-Aid can stick for even three years, his future team should be satisfied. It is also important to note that you not only are renting Manning’s arm, but you also rent what equates to a brand-new offensive coordinator and playbook. Let’s face it: Manning isn’t going to learn a brand-new offense at this point in his career, nor should he have to. He will bring his offense, his verbiage, his audible package, and might even bring his favorite receiver wherever he signs. This might actually be a bigger turnoff than turn-on — not only would you be applying a Band-Aid as a short-term fix, but you are also potentially setting your franchise back by putting aside your own offensive scheme to run an entirely different one during the Manning years. When the Chiefs brought in Montana, they installed his offense and made it to the AFC Championship Game in 1993 and another playoff appearance in 1994, but the Chiefs haven’t won a playoff game since. Montana was good in the short term, but might have derailed the long-term outlook. That will be a major factor for the potential suitors in the Manning sweepstakes. Seattle limped through the season with Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst at quarterback. Although the Seahawks showed gradual improvement throughout the season, they never truly had an offensive identity. Marshawn Lynch provides a steady running game, and the presence of Manning at quarterback would give them a balanced attack that would only make Lynch more successful. After spending their first two draft picks in last year’s draft on offensive linemen, this is, obviously, the strength of their team. The Seahawks’ ability to keep Manning upright will be very attractive to a quarterback who is very much a pocket passer. Seattle doesn’t necessarily have the wide receivers the others have, but with the possible addition of Reggie Wayne and a healthy Sidney Rice, they would be good enough. As for the Chiefs, they would need to improve their offensive line, but they have a great roster of skill players who would be very attractive to Manning. I believe they will get Dwayne Bowe re-signed. And when they do, they will have Bowe and Jon Baldwin on the outside, with Steve Breaston in the slot. After sitting out all of last season, tight end Tony Moeaki will return to the lineup and add another dimension to the offense. Additionally, running back Jamaal Charles will return after missing the majority of last season, which would give Manning the Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai type of presence that he has come to lean on at running back. But maybe most important for the Chiefs, after firing the offensive-minded Todd Haley and the ensuing retirement of last year’s offensive coordinator, Bill Muir, they haven’t yet installed a new offensive scheme. Brian Daboll, formerly of the Dolphins, is the new offensive coordinator but would be most willing to take on Manning and his entire offense. The New York Jets make sense simply because of Rex Ryan’s willingness to do anything to win. Even with the recent hire of Tony Sparano as offensive coordinator and the thought that he would bring a toughness and focus to the run game, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ryan pulled an entire 180 and rented Manning for three years. In the city of New York, where the Jets and Giants are always fighting for bragging rights, this would give Ryan the prime opportunity to steal the spotlight from the Giants after their Super Bowl championship and give Jets fans hope for near-term success. Let’s not forget, aside from Mark Brunell, Mark Sanchez has never had the opportunity to learn from an established veteran quarterback. The opportunity to observe Manning both on the practice field and in the film room would be invaluable to his development. Sanchez could still be the future of the franchise but be groomed and grow into that role rather than be thrust into it.
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