Chiefs What if Pioli & RAC stay, but we get a 1st rd QB?

RunKC · 09-22-2012, 11:17 PM

Haven't seen this discussed. What are your feelings on if Clark keeps Pioli and RAC, but Cassel is shown the door and we draft a Tyler Wilson/Geno Smith/Tyler Bray next year?

I think I'd still be pissed because Pioli is the end-all problem and a new QB gives him 3 more years.

**RealSNR** · 09-22-2012, 11:17 PM

We're nothing unless we go get Black Russian

Brock · 09-22-2012, 11:20 PM

If by "keep" Pioli, you mean he extends him for 4 years, I'm against it. Against it doesn't really come close to describing how against it I am.

milkman · 09-22-2012, 11:22 PM

This team is going nowhere with Crennel on the sidelines.

I fully expected things to go bad with Crennel, but didn't expect them to go bad as quickly as they have.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-22-2012, 11:24 PM

I don't care. Just get us a QB. A QB really does make it all better. Look at guys like Mike Tomlin and Belichick. I'm sorry, we don't truly know their true genius beyond their franchise QBs. Tony Dungy was a terrible head coach but he had Manning and rode his forehead to a Super Bowl title. It's a players league. I would be fine if those guys stayed because good players make coaches look better, IMO. Coaches do serve their purpose though. Players all the time credit coaches for their development, sometimes everyone needs a push. But in the end, you can coach all you want but if the player doesn't have the talent you and him are looking for another job. Do I want them here? No. Do I have a say in it? No again. Just get a franchise QB and add some more pieces and you'll be surprised. JMO.

**007** · 09-22-2012, 11:29 PM

no. I want them gone. I don't want them picking another QB.

**Bowser** · 09-22-2012, 11:31 PM

What exactly has either Pioli or Crennel done to make you feel comfortable about them picking up a quarterback in the first round next year?

Their track records with QB's isn't exactly all sparkly.

Quesadilla Joe · 09-22-2012, 11:33 PM

What if the QB busts? And saying, "at least we tried" is really dumb to me.

You don't just take a QB because you need one, you should only take a QB if he is the right one. If you miss your entire franchise is set back at least 3 or 4 years.

FAX · 09-22-2012, 11:33 PM

What if Crennel is infected with a virus that found its way to Earth on an asteroid and it turned him into a giant, fat zombie who obeyed Pioli's every command? I haven't seen that discussed, either.

... wait a minute ...

Crennel is a giant, fat zombie who obeys Pioli's every command. And we have discussed that.

Never mind.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-22-2012, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

What if the QB busts? And saying, "at least we tried" is really dumb to me.

You don't just take a QB because you need one, you should only take a QB if he is the right one. If you miss your entire franchise is set back at least 3 or 4 years.

Only losers live in "what if" mode. Take the risk.

**DeezNutz** · 09-22-2012, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

What exactly has either Pioli or Crennel done to make you feel comfortable about them picking up a quarterback in the first round next year?

Their track records with QB's isn't exactly all sparkly.

If Herm would have stayed, I'm confident that he would have pushed to take Sanchez, not because of the player but because it would have extended Herm's contract by default.

Let's not set ourselves up for the same bullshit here, please. Management and coaching are incompetent; fine, let's move on.

NJChiefsFan · 09-22-2012, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

What if the QB busts? And saying, "at least we tried" is really dumb to me.

You don't just take a QB because you need one, you should only take a QB if he is the right one. If you miss your entire franchise is set back at least 3 or 4 years.

I don't think thats really that true anymore. Its certainly not true cap-wise. The time set back is on seeing if the QB works out. Certainly you don't want to just literally draft anyone, but its time to do what it takes to get a guy who at least has a shot. Right now we don't have a guy with a shot. Not drafting a QB for a while because you are afraid of missing is setting the franchise back as it is.

**DeezNutz** · 09-22-2012, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

What if the QB busts? And saying, "at least we tried" is really dumb to me.

You don't just take a QB because you need one, you should only take a QB if he is the right one. If you miss your entire franchise is set back at least 3 or 4 years.

Yep, making the dumbest decision in history on a QB in the first sure set the Broncos back 4 years.

-King- · 09-22-2012, 11:36 PM

If we get a franchise QB, it's worth it.

**New World Order** · 09-22-2012, 11:36 PM

I don't want them touching our future qb, Pioli brought in Matt Cassel to be our franchise guy, that didn't work out. He brought Palko in to be our backup, which failed, and drafted Ricky Stanzi.

Just say no.

09-22-2012, 11:17 PM
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09-22-2012, 11:20 PM	#3
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09-22-2012, 11:24 PM	#5
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7888717	I don't care. Just get us a QB. A QB really does make it all better. Look at guys like Mike Tomlin and Belichick. I'm sorry, we don't truly know their true genius beyond their franchise QBs. Tony Dungy was a terrible head coach but he had Manning and rode his forehead to a Super Bowl title. It's a players league. I would be fine if those guys stayed because good players make coaches look better, IMO. Coaches do serve their purpose though. Players all the time credit coaches for their development, sometimes everyone needs a push. But in the end, you can coach all you want but if the player doesn't have the talent you and him are looking for another job. Do I want them here? No. Do I have a say in it? No again. Just get a franchise QB and add some more pieces and you'll be surprised. JMO. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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09-22-2012, 11:29 PM	#6
007 Shaken. Not stirred. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Casino cash: $13900126 VARSITY	no. I want them gone. I don't want them picking another QB. __________________ My dear girl, there are some things that just aren’t done. Such as, drinking Dom Perignon ’53 above the temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s just as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs.
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09-22-2012, 11:33 PM	#8
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3848675	What if the QB busts? And saying, "at least we tried" is really dumb to me. You don't just take a QB because you need one, you should only take a QB if he is the right one. If you miss your entire franchise is set back at least 3 or 4 years. __________________ “(Sean) Payton feels as strongly about Bo Nix as he did Mahomes.“ - Adam Schefter
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New World Order Choco Favre Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $2254765	I don't want them touching our future qb, Pioli brought in Matt Cassel to be our franchise guy, that didn't work out. He brought Palko in to be our backup, which failed, and drafted Ricky Stanzi. Just say no.
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