Clark's blueprint for Chiefs new organizational structure?

[FloridaMan88]

Ironically involves Fat Scott and the HC the Chiefs could have had in 2012 who many on this board love to hate... Jeff Fisher:

Rams started their rebuilding effort the right way in 2012

Link to full article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...2_a6&eref=sihp

On Black New Year's Day, as 11 NFL teams try to figure out what to do with either their organization, GM, coach, coaching staffs -- or all of them -- I bring you my Smart Team of the Year: the St. Louis Rams.

I don't mean the best team of the year. I mean the team that, in the span of one year, did the most to turn itself around, and did it wisely, and used every resource it had available to get it done. And if the rebuilders of 2013 are smart, they'll study the lessons of the Rams of 2012.

A little more than a year ago, Rams owner Stan Kroenke read a book by Boston-based author Michael Holley that I've recommended highly, War Room. It's about the formation of modern pro football teams and front offices, and how Bill Belichick and two former Patriots personnel men, Scott Pioli and Thomas Dimitroff, went about building the Patriots, Chiefs and Falcons. Kroenke liked the division-of-labor aspects of the book, and he also liked the fact that teams can best be formed with a strong titular head of an organization, that most often being a strong head coach. So he had Kevin Demoff, his man on the ground in St. Louis, go hard after the best available head coach/franchise leader he could find. That man, Kevin Demoff thought, was Fisher. After dueling with Miami, the Rams landed Fisher. The next step was finding a smart personnel man who would look everywhere for players -- small college, Arena, Canada, didn't matter. That man, Kevin Demoff thought, was Dimitroff's Atlanta lieutenant, Les Snead. So in came Snead to repair the dumpster fire the team had become (10-38 in the previous three years, 2-14 in 2011).

[mcaj22]

the Colts were the smartest team of the year

they knew who to cut, who to draft, who to trade for, who to add around Luck, who to keep, what coaching staff to put in place, the owner took back his team from a crazy GM.


that's what Clark should be doing

[Hammock Parties]

Not true. I was informed by many that Romeo was an ideal hire over a turd like Jeff Fisher.

[kcxiv]

Well, its good that everyone gets an equall say considering the COach is the one coaching them and the Coach is supposed to put the player into a system that suits their talents.

Scott just did everything ****ing wrong wrong wrong, 1 good player one average player and the rest below average through the draft. Only one half decent free agent signing in Breaston and then they put him on inactive.

The only more fail in NFL history for a GM has to be Millen.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus

Ironically involves Fat Scott and the HC the Chiefs could have had in 2012 who many on this board love to hate... Jeff Fisher:

Rams started their rebuilding effort the right way in 2012

Link to full article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...2_a6&eref=sihp

On Black New Year's Day, as 11 NFL teams try to figure out what to do with either their organization, GM, coach, coaching staffs -- or all of them -- I bring you my Smart Team of the Year: the St. Louis Rams.

I don't mean the best team of the year. I mean the team that, in the span of one year, did the most to turn itself around, and did it wisely, and used every resource it had available to get it done. And if the rebuilders of 2013 are smart, they'll study the lessons of the Rams of 2012.

A little more than a year ago, Rams owner Stan Kroenke read a book by Boston-based author Michael Holley that I've recommended highly, War Room. It's about the formation of modern pro football teams and front offices, and how Bill Belichick and two former Patriots personnel men, Scott Pioli and Thomas Dimitroff, went about building the Patriots, Chiefs and Falcons. Kroenke liked the division-of-labor aspects of the book, and he also liked the fact that teams can best be formed with a strong titular head of an organization, that most often being a strong head coach. So he had Kevin Demoff, his man on the ground in St. Louis, go hard after the best available head coach/franchise leader he could find. That man, Kevin Demoff thought, was Fisher. After dueling with Miami, the Rams landed Fisher. The next step was finding a smart personnel man who would look everywhere for players -- small college, Arena, Canada, didn't matter. That man, Kevin Demoff thought, was Dimitroff's Atlanta lieutenant, Les Snead. So in came Snead to repair the dumpster fire the team had become (10-38 in the previous three years, 2-14 in 2011).

I recommend the book, it is an excellent read. It is the reason I believe the recent moves by Hunt are brilliant and Pioli could still be good if used in the same way he was used in New England. To make it happen they need a strong willed high profile experienced coach that can run the football operations and let Pioli run the scouting and administration.

[Baby Lee]

Fisher sure makes it easy to transfer fandom to the Rams if things continue going to shit with KC, but I like Clark's initiative this week.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Not true. I was informed by many that Romeo was an ideal hire over a turd like Jeff Fisher.

While I was not excited for RAC getting the HC job, Fisher is the most overrated NFL coach ever. He is living off of one Super Bowl run 13 years ago.

Other than that he has been the model of mediocrity.

[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Fisher sure makes it easy to transfer fandom to the Rams if things continue going to shit with KC, but I like Clark's initiative this week.

Yea he found his balls this week, just hope he sees it through and gives the fans a product they can be proud of.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

the Colts were the smartest team of the year

they knew who to cut, who to draft, who to trade for, who to add around Luck, who to keep, what coaching staff to put in place, the owner took back his team from a crazy GM.


that's what Clark should be doing

The Colts did a great job. The truth with that is they absolutely didn't make moves to sell tickets. Nobody in any fanbase is going to get excited about hiring Ryan Grigson and Chuck Pagano. But look now, all the Colts fans who jumped off the bandwagon jumped back on. Clark is right about that... if his hire wins nobody will care who it is.

You've got a 40 year old director of personnel for the Eagles whose drafts have been ripped up on this board today while talking about Andy Reid, and a HC who spent almost 30 years in football pretty much solely as a position coach. He had one year of coordinating experience in the NFL.

That's why I'm really not so quick to dismiss some of the "lesser" known candidates. You never know... sometimes they are truly better at managing a team than a coordinator who may be a hotshot at calling plays.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

While I was not excited for RAC getting the HC job, Fisher is the most overrated NFL coach ever. He is living off of one Super Bowl run 13 years ago.

Other than that he has been the model of mediocrity.

Right now, he's living off turning around a pathetic franchise quicker and more stably than most thought possible in just the past 9 months.

The Rams will be a hard out for a while.

RGIII versus all they got for his draft spot is a tough call, particularly with so much invested in Bradford already. Time will tell there.

[milkman]

As has been pointed out, the Colts are the smartest, and had by far the biggest turnaround, and look like a team that will have sustained success.

The Seahawks and Redskins are also teams that improved more dramatically than the Rams, and the Dolphins are probably on the same level.

The Rams, with Fisher, will be a perennial 6 to 10 win team.

Jeff Fisher is the very epitome of mediocre.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by tk13

The Colts did a great job. The truth with that is they absolutely didn't make moves to sell tickets. Nobody in any fanbase is going to get excited about hiring Ryan Grigson and Chuck Pagano. But look now, all the Colts fans who jumped off the bandwagon jumped back on. Clark is right about that... if his hire wins nobody will care who it is.

You've got a 40 year old director of personnel for the Eagles whose drafts have been ripped up on this board today while talking about Andy Reid, and a HC who spent almost 30 years in football pretty much solely as a position coach. He had one year of coordinating experience in the NFL.

That's why I'm really not so quick to dismiss some of the "lesser" known candidates. You never know... sometimes they are truly better at managing a team than a coordinator who may be a hotshot at calling plays.

I agree with you if the lesser known candidates come from the respected roots of the Steelers and Ravens like Pagano/Arians etc.

but so far all of Clark's "lesser known guy" interviews are Pioli connection Pats/Browns/Parcells approval tree ****ing bullshit. And that's not what I want.

You get me a lesser known guy from the Packers, Ravens, Steelers, 49ers, whoever that hates Pioli and I am all ears.

[dannybcaitlyn]

I still would have drafted RG3 and put Bradford on the trading block.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by milkman

The Rams, with Fisher, will be a perennial 6 to 10 win team.

Jeff Fisher is the very epitome of mediocre.

This, over and over and over...

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by milkman

As has been pointed out, the Colts are the smartest, and had by far the biggest turnaround, and look like a team that will have sustained success.

The Seahawks and Redskins are also teams that improved more dramatically than the Rams, and the Dolphins are probably on the same level.

The Rams, with Fisher, will be a perennial 6 to 10 win team.

Jeff Fisher is the very epitome of mediocre.

Rams beat the Skins and split with the Hawks [almost complete split, W 19-13, then L 13-20].

Also split/won against NFCW champ 49ers, tied first then won by FG in OT second.

Don't know what is so 'smart' about taking the most obvious #1 pick in a generation, which along with their tanking last season constitutes the bulk of their turnaround. Frankly, anything short of exactly where they are right now would be a disappointment.