Get off DV's back about Bell

Red Dawg · 08-26-2005, 10:49 AM

I want to see him play just as much as everyone else and I'm sure there is more to the story than DV will say but the season has not started yet. When Bell is out the first game I will be concerned. If he's got a shoulder problem then let him deal with the pain in game that matters.

Leave him out until it's time to hit Martin.

Mr. Laz · 08-26-2005, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Get off DV's back about Bell .

blow me

Kyle401 · 08-26-2005, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

I want to see him play just as much as everyone else and I'm sure there is more to the story than DV will say but the season has not started yet. When Bell is out the first game I will be concerned. If he's got a shoulder problem then let him deal with the pain in game that matters.

Leave him out until it's time to hit Martin.

This definitive and authoritative commentary on Bell's possible injury issues and DV's explanations thereof have alleviated any possible worries that I may be experiencing, or might possibly experience, regarding the health and status of said player. I can't thank you enough for your searing insight.

jspchief · 08-26-2005, 11:06 AM

Vermeil is blowing smoke up the asses of Chiefs fans.

I'll make a deal with you. I'll get off his back when you get off his ball sack.

Otter · 08-26-2005, 11:12 AM

You were here last night when DV stopped by and we wouldn't leave him alone then...that was brutal.

For those of you who missed it, here's the thread.

Dick Vermeil Thread

Brock · 08-26-2005, 11:12 AM

Given his history, how could you not be concerned?

08-26-2005, 11:15 AM

Vermeil is covering a mistake. Clearly Bell's injury is worse than they anticipated or it's not responding well to treatment. What can you do about it? Hopefully Bell will be able to play through the pain during the games that count.

Are you mad because Vermeil is being less than forthcoming about it? Are you new? Vermeil hasn't volunteered one speck of info in 5 years. Vermeil is the guy who blames a 10 mile per hour breeze for Trent Green interceptions among 1000 other examples. He's an accomplished bullshit artist.

Scaga · 08-26-2005, 11:29 AM

Here's my $.02.

I think the training staff and coaching staff(s) are being a bunch of PU$$IES. They see him (slightly) holding back and not going 100% and instantly become scared.

I (in my infinate wisdom) see it as Bell is going through a normal stage in recovering from an injury. There's always a period where the person has to regain the trust that he won't be injured going balls-out. I think you're going to have that period whether its now or 2 weeks from now.

And besides, I pay my $60-$100 per ticket (you know...to be a REAL fan) so I can bitch if I want to.

Katipan · 08-26-2005, 11:30 AM

I think the training staff has been more vigillant towards EVERYONE and Bell is just an alarming red light for us because we haven't seen him hit anyone.

htismaqe · 08-26-2005, 11:38 AM

Bell is damaged goods. He won't play a down for the Chiefs.

**BigRedChief** · 08-26-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Bell is damaged goods. He won't play a down for the Chiefs.

Dammit Carl!

Anybody got Hartwell's cell #?

Cormac · 08-26-2005, 11:40 AM

I don't know what DV or the FO is supposed to do.

Hartwell didn't want to come here, so they signed Bell. The fact that they got him for the 2-tiered bonus they signed him to, is evidence enough that he's damaged goods, IMO. The contract is structured so that we can cut him loose if he can't go, or doesn't impress this season. Now we have to live with the risk. I'd bet anything that nobody is more frustrated with the fact that Bell is not seeing live game action than DV. I don't doubt his desire to finally get everybody on the field at one time, but circumstances dictate otherwise. He's being very careful of veterans. Let's see how that works for him before bringing the torches and pick-axes to his door.

How he deals with the media is odd, but what coach isn't. Is there a more obtuse coach in the league than the much-lauded Bill Parcells who wouldn't even admit that Demarcus Ware had a good game the other week? DV is just doing what everybody in his position does. He's equal parts deliberately avoiding a direct answer, equal parts unclear and frustrated as to whether Bell will be able to go.

One other point, about 10 days ago Bell was interviewed and said that he is "ready to go". Well, apparently he's not. Personally, I don't have a clue whether Bell is putting it off, the trainers are, or the coaching staff. And to be honest it's probably least likely to be the coaching staff. If the trainers said he was ready to go, I really doubt DV would tell him to sit out again.

JMO.

**BigRedChief** · 08-26-2005, 11:48 AM

Yeah 610 was on the radio sayng they had a close contact with Bell and they were told that he was ready to go that it was the Coaches that were holding him back. Now we hear Bell himself say that he is not ready. This is a big fat red flag. But ooooohhhhh well. The die is cast.

kc1977 · 08-26-2005, 12:04 PM

Vickie D has lied to us in the past. You just can't believe a word out of his mouth.

Hammock Parties · 08-26-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Bell is damaged goods. He won't play a down for the Chiefs.

...are you being sarcastic?

08-26-2005, 10:49 AM
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4582858	Get off DV's back about Bell I want to see him play just as much as everyone else and I'm sure there is more to the story than DV will say but the season has not started yet. When Bell is out the first game I will be concerned. If he's got a shoulder problem then let him deal with the pain in game that matters. Leave him out until it's time to hit Martin.
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08-26-2005, 11:06 AM	#4
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Vermeil is blowing smoke up the asses of Chiefs fans. I'll make a deal with you. I'll get off his back when you get off his ball sack. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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08-26-2005, 11:12 AM	#6
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	Given his history, how could you not be concerned?
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08-26-2005, 11:15 AM	#7
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	Vermeil is covering a mistake. Clearly Bell's injury is worse than they anticipated or it's not responding well to treatment. What can you do about it? Hopefully Bell will be able to play through the pain during the games that count. Are you mad because Vermeil is being less than forthcoming about it? Are you new? Vermeil hasn't volunteered one speck of info in 5 years. Vermeil is the guy who blames a 10 mile per hour breeze for Trent Green interceptions among 1000 other examples. He's an accomplished bullshit artist.
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08-26-2005, 11:29 AM	#8
Scaga Pissed off now Joboo Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my wife's $hitlist Casino cash: $3641665	Here's my $.02. I think the training staff and coaching staff(s) are being a bunch of PU$$IES. They see him (slightly) holding back and not going 100% and instantly become scared. I (in my infinate wisdom) see it as Bell is going through a normal stage in recovering from an injury. There's always a period where the person has to regain the trust that he won't be injured going balls-out. I think you're going to have that period whether its now or 2 weeks from now. And besides, I pay my $60-$100 per ticket (you know...to be a REAL fan) so I can bitch if I want to. __________________ Bluto: Christ. Seven years of college down the drain. Might as well join the f_cking Peace Corps
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08-26-2005, 11:30 AM	#9
Katipan MER Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $2570351	I think the training staff has been more vigillant towards EVERYONE and Bell is just an alarming red light for us because we haven't seen him hit anyone.
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08-26-2005, 11:38 AM	#10
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Bell is damaged goods. He won't play a down for the Chiefs.
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08-26-2005, 11:40 AM	#12
Cormac Haley sceptic.... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: waiting it out....... Casino cash: $10004900	I don't know what DV or the FO is supposed to do. Hartwell didn't want to come here, so they signed Bell. The fact that they got him for the 2-tiered bonus they signed him to, is evidence enough that he's damaged goods, IMO. The contract is structured so that we can cut him loose if he can't go, or doesn't impress this season. Now we have to live with the risk. I'd bet anything that nobody is more frustrated with the fact that Bell is not seeing live game action than DV. I don't doubt his desire to finally get everybody on the field at one time, but circumstances dictate otherwise. He's being very careful of veterans. Let's see how that works for him before bringing the torches and pick-axes to his door. How he deals with the media is odd, but what coach isn't. Is there a more obtuse coach in the league than the much-lauded Bill Parcells who wouldn't even admit that Demarcus Ware had a good game the other week? DV is just doing what everybody in his position does. He's equal parts deliberately avoiding a direct answer, equal parts unclear and frustrated as to whether Bell will be able to go. One other point, about 10 days ago Bell was interviewed and said that he is "ready to go". Well, apparently he's not. Personally, I don't have a clue whether Bell is putting it off, the trainers are, or the coaching staff. And to be honest it's probably least likely to be the coaching staff. If the trainers said he was ready to go, I really doubt DV would tell him to sit out again. JMO.
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08-26-2005, 11:48 AM	#13
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $2889627 VARSITY	Yeah 610 was on the radio sayng they had a close contact with Bell and they were told that he was ready to go that it was the Coaches that were holding him back. Now we hear Bell himself say that he is not ready. This is a big fat red flag. But ooooohhhhh well. The die is cast. __________________ Time is worth more than money.
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08-26-2005, 12:04 PM	#14
kc1977 Bye Bye Dickie Join Date: Feb 2002 Casino cash: $10004900	Vickie D has lied to us in the past. You just can't believe a word out of his mouth.
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