Chiefs Is it time to go back to the 4-3?

**petegz28** · 12-23-2014, 08:41 AM

With Hali coming to the end of his career along with DJ, if he comes back, DeVito is getting up there as well, isn't he(?), we seem to be losing the players we need to run a 3-4.

Can Dee Ford play DE in a 4-3?
Can Houston move to a 4-3 OLB ala Von Douche?
Poe on the inside of a 4-3 could be awesome, yes?

What say you all???

FTR, I prefer the 3-4 if you have the people who can play in it. But I don't think we do.

lcarus · 12-23-2014, 08:44 AM

Dee Ford played 4-3 DE in college? I dont watch a lot of college so im probably wrong

**petegz28** · 12-23-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Dee Ford played 4-3 DE in college? I dont watch a lot of college so im probably wrong

I'm not sure. I don't watch much college FB outside of MU.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-23-2014, 08:50 AM

Auburn ran a 4-2-5 while Dee Ford was there.

ILChief · 12-23-2014, 09:00 AM

Our defense hasn't allowed 30 points or 300 yards this year and has faced manning twice, Brady, Wilson, rivers, and Roethlisberger playing without all pros Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, and a solid if unspectacular starter in DeVito. This in a league that gives every possible advantage to the offense

Makes perfect sense to blow it up and start over

Sandy Vagina · 12-23-2014, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

With Hali coming to the end of his career along with DJ, if he comes back, DeVito is getting up there as well, isn't he(?), we seem to be losing the players we need to run a 3-4.

Can Dee Ford play DE in a 4-3?
Can Houston move to a 4-3 OLB ala Von Douche?
Poe on the inside of a 4-3 could be awesome, yes?

What say you all???

FTR, I prefer the 3-4 if you have the people who can play in it. But I don't think we do.

Best bet is for a 4-3 Under with Houston playing as the SLB. He can blitz often from that spot.

SLB: Justin Houston (TAG), Frank Zombo (820,000)
MLB: Derrick Johnson (5,250,000), Joe Mays (4,000,000)
WLB: James-Michael Johnson (660,000) vs mid-rd draft pick

LDE: Allen Bailey (3,250,000), Mike Catapano (610,781)
LDT: Vance Walker (3,750,000 ), Jaye Howard (660,000)
RDT: Dontari Poe (3,601,822), Nick Williams (510,000 )
RDE: Dee Ford (1,854,250) , Josh Martin (660,000)

This would bring a lot of pass rush, giving Poe and Ford lots of 1 vs 1 matchups.

Dunerdr · 12-23-2014, 09:05 AM

Our defense has been better than I remember it being in my lifetime. But the 4-3 is supposedly cheaper. Unfortunately we have a premiere 3-4 line backer and nt. I think we'd somewhat hurt Houston's production while probably making Poe mor of a suh type force on the line. So idk.

Red Dawg · 12-23-2014, 09:08 AM

Defense needs to stay the same. It's working for the most part. DJ will help alot with the run defense.

ILChief · 12-23-2014, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Defense needs to stay the same. It's working for the most part. DJ will help alot with the run defense.

Run defense has looked a lot better with mays replacing JMJ

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 12-23-2014, 09:10 AM

Defense would get a lot more praise if they could stumble into a turnover every once in awhile.

Sandy Vagina · 12-23-2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

Defense would get a lot more praise if they could stumble into a turnover every once in awhile.

Truth. Being DEAD LAST in team takeaways at a pathetic 10 is ugly. Texans lead the league with over 3 times as many.

Dunerdr · 12-23-2014, 09:16 AM

Imagine where this d would bewith last years takeaways and scoring and this years yardage and red zone ability.

**ChiefGator** · 12-23-2014, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

But the 4-3 is supposedly cheaper.

Not to say it might not be now, but the 3-4 was actually considered cheaper and easier to find players. It gave "tweeners" a good spot and allowed teams to find gems later in the draft. However, there are quite a few teams playing the 3-4 now, so that is no longer true most likely.

**ChiefGator** · 12-23-2014, 09:18 AM

Oh yeah.. and don't change it. We had some pretty big injuries and really just need a couple defensive backs to make the defense work and be quite good.

Imon Yourside · 12-23-2014, 09:19 AM

Needing a QB doesn't necessitate needing a new Defense.

12-23-2014, 08:41 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $834127	Is it time to go back to the 4-3? With Hali coming to the end of his career along with DJ, if he comes back, DeVito is getting up there as well, isn't he(?), we seem to be losing the players we need to run a 3-4. Can Dee Ford play DE in a 4-3? Can Houston move to a 4-3 OLB ala Von Douche? Poe on the inside of a 4-3 could be awesome, yes? What say you all??? FTR, I prefer the 3-4 if you have the people who can play in it. But I don't think we do.
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12-23-2014, 08:44 AM	#2
lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-29887	Dee Ford played 4-3 DE in college? I dont watch a lot of college so im probably wrong
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DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $6324952	Auburn ran a 4-2-5 while Dee Ford was there. __________________
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ILChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $7894831	Our defense hasn't allowed 30 points or 300 yards this year and has faced manning twice, Brady, Wilson, rivers, and Roethlisberger playing without all pros Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, and a solid if unspectacular starter in DeVito. This in a league that gives every possible advantage to the offense Makes perfect sense to blow it up and start over
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12-23-2014, 09:05 AM	#7
Dunerdr MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $-1000000	Our defense has been better than I remember it being in my lifetime. But the 4-3 is supposedly cheaper. Unfortunately we have a premiere 3-4 line backer and nt. I think we'd somewhat hurt Houston's production while probably making Poe mor of a suh type force on the line. So idk. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
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12-23-2014, 09:08 AM	#8
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	Defense would get a lot more praise if they could stumble into a turnover every once in awhile.
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12-23-2014, 09:16 AM	#12
Dunerdr MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $-1000000	Imagine where this d would bewith last years takeaways and scoring and this years yardage and red zone ability. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
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12-23-2014, 09:18 AM	#14
ChiefGator Can these boys not play? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Northcentral Florida Casino cash: $7182956	Oh yeah.. and don't change it. We had some pretty big injuries and really just need a couple defensive backs to make the defense work and be quite good. __________________ - Mark
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12-23-2014, 09:19 AM	#15
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