Chiefs Looking to Houston

OldSchool · 08:40 AM

Now that Smith has been extended, we can move on to Justin Houston. With JJ Watt reportedly getting paid $100 mil for 6 years as one of the league's most dominant 3-4 DEs, how does that affect Justin Houston's outlook?

Watt is getting paid as a disruptor, for his ability to get to the QB and stop plays in the backfield. Justin Houston will get paid for a similar reason and is likely also looking at Mario Williams' deal as a barometer for his big pay day.

So the question is, if this is true and Houston is asking for something in the neighborhood of a 5-year $80 mil deal, would you give it to him or tell him to take a hike? What is the most that you would be willing to shell out to keep Houston on the roster? Would you rather just franchise him for 2 years straight while looking for a capable replacement through the draft?

Perhaps the real question we should be asking is: Would you rather pay for one "dominant" pass rusher (who has yet to crack into the 15 sack territory in his career) or have money to spend on a couple of good DBs while rolling with good to very good pass rushers in place of that one dominant guy (basically think what the Seahawks have with their pass rush by committee).

Saccopoo · 09-02-2014, 01:10 AM

Didn't we just draft a capable replacement for Houston?

**TimBone** · 09-02-2014, 01:11 AM

Honestly? I'd like to see how Houston plays this year. Let him play balls out on a contract year. If he lights it up...you pay the man top dollar. If he disappoints, well....you've got leverage going into negotiations this off season.

OldSchool · 09-02-2014, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Didn't we just draft a capable replacement for Houston?

Who knows what Ford will turn out to be? Things might look a lot better if he and Josh Martin suddenly start to look like quality starters, but the chances of that are very low this year.

If Ford could give you Houston's production in sacks within the next couple of years and Martin becomes very similar to Hali, do you still pay Houston? (However, that's an incredibly optimistic view.)

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-02-2014, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Didn't we just draft a capable replacement for Houston?

Who knows?

If that pick is a replacement, it's Hali's replacement. Houston is far too young to think about replacing now. Pay him.

OldSchool · 09-02-2014, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Who knows?

If that pick is a replacement, it's Hali's replacement. Houston is far too young to think about replacing now. Pay him.

How much would you be willing to pay him though? Upwards of $80 mil?

kcchiefsus · 09-02-2014, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

How much would you be willing to pay him though? Upwards of $80 mil?

Why not? I think he's proven he's a top notch talent in this league. I don't want the Chiefs to be known as a cheap ass team that won't pony up for talent. We already know we're too cheap to pay any decent free agents, we sure as hell better not be too cheap to retain our own players that were drafted by this team. We sure as hell don't draft well enough to just let a Houston type player walk.

**ChiefGator** · 09-02-2014, 04:32 AM

We have the tag as well for next year, if we need it. If we are going to pour out a huge contract based on potential, let's wait until the end of this year.

The only other player that might be tag worthy next year is Hudson, if I remember correctly.

kcchiefsus · 09-02-2014, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

We have the tag as well for next year, if we need it. If we are going to pour out a huge contract based on potential, let's wait until the end of this year.

The only other player that might be tag worthy next year is Hudson, if I remember correctly.

Based on potential? Houston still has room to get even better but i'd say he's more than potential by now. He's repeatedly proven it on the field.

Fritz88 · 09-02-2014, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Didn't we just draft a capable replacement for Houston?

I wouldn't be surprised if this regime let him walk.
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**loochy** · 09-02-2014, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Based on potential? Houston still has room to get even better but i'd say he's more than potential by now. He's repeatedly proven it on the field.

Repeatedly for half of a season.

kcchiefsus · 09-02-2014, 05:36 AM

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Repeatedly for half of a season.

Then say he's injury prone, but don't say he hasn't proven himself. A healthy Houston was a beast last year.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-02-2014, 06:00 AM

We need to keep him motivated this year by not signing him now and at the same time seeing what we have in Dee Ford. If he get's injured again it MAY reduce his price . In the end if he performs well then we can get a contract done or franchise him. If he's too greedy then we can't use him anyway. It won't be for the best interest of the team.

**Rausch** · 09-02-2014, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

So the question is, if this is true and Houston is asking for something in the neighborhood of a 5-year $80 mil deal, would you give it to him or tell him to take a hike?

Give it to him.

Only the Chiefs dream of getting a top 10 player and when they finally do tell him to GTFO because he wants to get paid like one...

**Rausch** · 09-02-2014, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

We need to keep him motivated this year by not signing him now and at the same time seeing what we have in Dee Ford. If he get's injured again it MAY reduce his price .

This was exactly my point about the Smith deal and I was told it was a stupid idea...

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OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Looking to Houston Now that Smith has been extended, we can move on to Justin Houston. With JJ Watt reportedly getting paid $100 mil for 6 years as one of the league's most dominant 3-4 DEs, how does that affect Justin Houston's outlook? Watt is getting paid as a disruptor, for his ability to get to the QB and stop plays in the backfield. Justin Houston will get paid for a similar reason and is likely also looking at Mario Williams' deal as a barometer for his big pay day. So the question is, if this is true and Houston is asking for something in the neighborhood of a 5-year $80 mil deal, would you give it to him or tell him to take a hike? What is the most that you would be willing to shell out to keep Houston on the roster? Would you rather just franchise him for 2 years straight while looking for a capable replacement through the draft? Perhaps the real question we should be asking is: Would you rather pay for one "dominant" pass rusher (who has yet to crack into the 15 sack territory in his career) or have money to spend on a couple of good DBs while rolling with good to very good pass rushers in place of that one dominant guy (basically think what the Seahawks have with their pass rush by committee). Last edited by OldSchool; 09-02-2014 at 08:40 AM..
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1200477	We need to keep him motivated this year by not signing him now and at the same time seeing what we have in Dee Ford. If he get's injured again it MAY reduce his price . In the end if he performs well then we can get a contract done or franchise him. If he's too greedy then we can't use him anyway. It won't be for the best interest of the team.
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