Will you all agree?

[Cannibal]

I've crying for an enema for the Chiefs franchise since the 98 debacle.

But if Ryan Leaf actually comes into Arrowhead and gets a win, will you all agree that it's finally time for the Chiefs to clean house with a new GM and head coach at the end of the year?

Even if the Chiefs do win, we still need that enema IMO, because our salary cap doesn't even come close to meeting the talent we have on the field, but I just want to know how a SD win could affect your opinions.<BR>

[Cannibal]

Cryan Leaf getting a win in Arrowhead is pure sacrilege and should be impossible, but with these Chiefs anything is possible.

[mlyonsd]

It won't matter anymore, I won't have a TV left to watch the Chiefs.

Seriously, for me if we stick to the same offensive game plan I would vote for a change.

We need the change whether we win or not. I don't think CP is leaving, like it or not. But he had sure as hell better show Gunther and his stooges the door. Just don't hire Shaw as his replacement.

[KCTitus]

An interesting dilemma for me. I was never convinced that Gun and the same crew that Marty left were worth anything.

Im of the opinion right now, that there should be coaching changes and the HC should be tossed if we lose to SD.

The GM on the other hand, Im still not convinced there's another out there that could do any better. This opinion could change though futher into this season. IMO, Carl's not going anywhere regardless.

[Cannibal]

I agree that we need the house cleaning with or without a win as I stated in the original post.

But Peterson will be fired sooner or later if the attendance starts to drop, you can count on that.

[Cannibal]

If Peterson was fired, there would be a boat load of GM's lining up for a shot at that job.

Not many executives get the opportunity to have "total control" of an NFL franchise.

In other words, we would probably get an array of very good choices to replace him IMO.

[This message has been edited by Cannibal (edited 09-13-2000).]

[KCTitus]

Lamar's not going to move that fast.

[Clint in Wichita]

Carl did a great job of making KC a competitive team, but he is also the person who is solely responsible for assembling the current group of players and COACHES who are now allowing this team to backslide towards the 80s.

IMO a GM, no matter how effective, has a limited shelf-life with one team, just like a head coach. Carl has already hit his peak, IMO. He has done what he does best...build a solid team. Now we need to bring in someone that knows all about taking the next step before this team regresses to the point of no return.

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[ck_IN]

I'm of the opinion that we need a HC/DC/OC/STC change at the end of this season. A SD win won't change anything in that area. I wouldn't do it during the season however. I want a permanent change, not an interm one.

At seasons end a laundry list of candidates for the above positions could be assembled and would be much deeper than it would at present.

[Clint in Wichita]

If Carl is still in place, all the other changes will be meaningless. You'll see another defensive-minded conservative buddy of Carl's as Foot-Shuffling Porter/HC, Shaw as DC, and Solari or Lavan as OC.

What a mess.

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[ChiTown]

I'm with Chuck, a SD win @ home won't do anything for me other than suggest this was an obvious win for us. We need a thorough douching with our coaches.

[Cannibal]

I agree with Clint wholeheartedly.

Carl will not hire a coach that would be able to challenge his authority. He also has not improved at drafting skill position players. After this season we might actually be in a position to draft a decent RB [possibly McCallister] and I want a GM who will pull the trigger on draft day to get us some offensive play makers.

I definitely don't want to see Peterson taking another OG in the first round.

[RaiderCorporate]

I prefer that KC retain its management and coaching structure idefinitely. I like what's happening in KC!

[Cannibal]

You know something is wrong when your opponents take comfort with who our GM and Head Coach are. <P>