If Sabans theories hold true Dolphins will blow out Chiefs

B_Ambuehl · 10-21-2005, 11:05 AM

Did anyone see him on NFL network earlier in the week?

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Saban: The worst thing that can happen to a football team is to play bad and win. The WORST thing that can happen to a football team is to play terrible and win. We live in a results oriented society and all anyone wants to look at are the results. But what happens is they forget about following the "process" that leads to the results.

The worst beating we ever took at LSU was after a game against Vanderbilt which we won on a last second lucky ass bullshit bomb in the end zone. Everybody's happy and they're going "why are you pissed we won didn't we?" Well we didn't block anybody, we didn't tackle anybody, we didn't line up on defense correctly but everybody's happy cause we won and that's all that mattes right? But next week we got killed because we we forgot about following and executing the process that leads to the positive results.

I couldn't help but laugh after hearing that when the Chiefs play like shit against the redskins and DV is out there handing out gameballs and shit. Add to that fact up until today it's been ilegal for a team to travel and play on the same day in the NFL and maybe it's not such a bad idea I can't watch the game.

htismaqe · 10-21-2005, 11:07 AM

I guess I missed the game against the Redskins where "we won on a last second lucky ass bullshit bomb in the end zone. Everybody's happy and they're going "why are you pissed we won didn't we?" Well we didn't block anybody, we didn't tackle anybody, we didn't line up on defense correctly ".

InChiefsHeaven · 10-21-2005, 11:11 AM

Exactly. The Skins game was not THAT bad...

Mr. Laz · 10-21-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Saban: The WORST thing that can happen to a football team is to play terrible and win.

It's been part of our problem for a long time

ignoring problems and bad performances just because we won.

If it happens once or occasionally ... fine

that's why we've have won a playoff game in 10 years ... because all the ugly games we've won in the regular season don't carry over into the playoffs against good teams.

going 13-3 and then standing pat because you had a winning record... but ignoring the fact that we won so many games because of miracle returns by Dante Hall is another example.

it's a inherent weakness of character by our front office ... willing to "get by" and overlook problems because it's expedient to do so.

htismaqe · 10-21-2005, 11:15 AM

FYI, we played better against the Skins, and beat them worse, than did the Broncos.

Yet, the Broncos beat the defending world champs the next week.

BigRock · 10-21-2005, 11:18 AM

Yeah, WTF is DV thinking giving out gameballs for that 'Skins game? And to Jared Allen?? He sure didn't line up or tackle correctly.

Chiefs Pantalones · 10-21-2005, 11:21 AM

"If Sabans theories hold true Dolphins will blow out Chiefs"

Guess we better not play the game.

B_Ambuehl · 10-21-2005, 11:33 AM

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It's been part of our problem for a long time

ignoring problems and bad performances just because we won.

It's good to know someone else notices.

I know Saban is about as big as an asshole as you can find and I would surely hate to play for him but I think it's much more likely his motivational approach will lead to him being the next great coach down the road 3-5 years instead of overhyped flavor of the months such as Weis, Crennel, Childress, blah blah blah.

He really takes that shit to another level. Before the sugar bowl he wouldn't let his players so much as talk about "winning" the football game. All they were to focus on was executing each play one by one. Focus on the end result f*** up the process.

htismaqe · 10-21-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

It's good to know someone else notices.

I know Saban is about as big as an asshole as you can find and I would surely hate to play for him but I think it's much more likely his motivational approach will lead to him being the next great coach down the road 3-5 years instead of overhyped flavor of the months such as Weis, Crennel, Childress, blah blah blah.

He really takes that shit to another level. Before the sugar bowl he wouldn't let his players so much as talk about "winning" the football game. All they were to focus on was executing each play one by one. Focus on the end result f*** up the process.

That's about the dumbest thing I've read on here in a while.

ROYC75 · 10-21-2005, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I guess I missed the game against the Redskins where "we won on a last second lucky ass bullshit bomb in the end zone. Everybody's happy and they're going "why are you pissed we won didn't we?" Well we didn't block anybody, we didn't tackle anybody, we didn't line up on defense correctly ".

Well, in a round about way, we did. Knight's tipped pass in the end zone on an bomb open reciever with just a few seconds left saved the game.

Personally, I think we will be fine tonight, other than the fact we don't get to watch it...........

Back to the 60's we go..... listening to radio and no TV.

Kyle401 · 10-21-2005, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's about the dumbest thing I've read on here in a while.

Keep reading B_Ambhuel's posts. He's got plenty more.

Chiefnj · 10-21-2005, 12:41 PM

I don't think the Chiefs played terribly. I think the defense was above average. They got turnovers, pumped up the crowd, did a good job against the run, scored a TD, got good field position for the offense, got QB pressure and won the game.

Taco John · 10-21-2005, 01:05 PM

I wouldn't be suprised to see the Dolphins beat you guys. They've got a pretty good run defense, and can get pressure on the quarterback.

Mr. Laz · 10-21-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I don't think the Chiefs played terribly. I think the defense was above average. They got turnovers, pumped up the crowd, did a good job against the run, scored a TD, got good field position for the offense, got QB pressure and won the game.

i don't think the point of the thread was the washington game

i think it's about the philosophy of being satisfied with an ugly win just because it's a win.

eventually team problems will catch up to you and won't win

**Bearcat** · 10-21-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Add to that fact up until today it's been ilegal for a team to travel and play on the same day in the NFL .

This is talked about WAY too much in the media, and now the fans think it's impossible, too. ESPN made a huge deal out of it when Tennessee had to do it for the LSU game, even though the coaches and players -- the ones having to do it -- didn't seem to care at all (yes, I'm sure there was some degree of saying the right thing, but it was a far cry from CP's "we're at a competitive disadvantage crap yesterday).

At my DII school, the bus would load up at some crazy time like 5am and drive 5 hours to Rolla or SW Baptist. Feel free to bitch all you want about how this is a different level, blah blah blah, but they're also grown men who are pampered to no end. I think they can rough it out for one day. While missing practice time is one thing, I really don't think a first class flight the day of the game is something to complain about.

10-21-2005, 11:07 AM	#2
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I guess I missed the game against the Redskins where "we won on a last second lucky ass bullshit bomb in the end zone. Everybody's happy and they're going "why are you pissed we won didn't we?" Well we didn't block anybody, we didn't tackle anybody, we didn't line up on defense correctly ".
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10-21-2005, 11:11 AM	#3
InChiefsHeaven Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $3454937	Exactly. The Skins game was not THAT bad... __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	FYI, we played better against the Skins, and beat them worse, than did the Broncos. Yet, the Broncos beat the defending world champs the next week.
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BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $3055412	Yeah, WTF is DV thinking giving out gameballs for that 'Skins game? And to Jared Allen?? He sure didn't line up or tackle correctly.
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Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	I don't think the Chiefs played terribly. I think the defense was above average. They got turnovers, pumped up the crowd, did a good job against the run, scored a TD, got good field position for the offense, got QB pressure and won the game.
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