I no longer blame Herm Edwards.

**HemiEd** · 03:46 PM

Watched the game again last night very closely. I backed it up and watched key plays several times. IMO it came down to four plays that went wrong for us.
1) Dante Hall's fumble, I already knew that, the momentum clearly changed. We were on our way to dominating the Bengals until that happened.
2) Both of Samie Parkers Offensive pass interference calls. They were both killers to drives that were looking very promising. Were they ticky tack? I don't know, someone else on here knows more than I about that.
3) The hit on Trent Green. Trent was trying to carry the team to a comeback. The team was stunned, you could see it. We ended up with no points on that drive, not even a FG. I hope he comes back for many more drives.

Herm did not ruin the offense, we had our chances even with Jordan Black's OLE moves at RT.

TrickyNicky · 09-12-2006, 03:34 PM

BS. Herm has precognition and knew Trent was going down, but of course, he sat at the foot of King Carl's throne squandering the precious time and money it would take to find a replacement QB.

JimNasium · 09-12-2006, 03:35 PM

Herm is the debil.

Archie F. Swin · 09-12-2006, 03:37 PM

Good call on Samie's flags...also I agree Herm doesn't field punts or stop the run on 3rd and short... last I checked.

Blame should be delt like cards this week.

Stinger · 09-12-2006, 03:38 PM

I would like to add one more trent non pass to LJ and getting sacked on the 8-9 yardline. Scrambled out the pocket had LJ in check down for 3-5 seconds looked him off twice (at least that what it looked like in across the field.) Trent and the offence in general looked flumexed at that point in the first half. Decisions they were making where not typical.

I am not sure if they put too much pressure on themselves to preform for the new coach for the fans or what but that was so out of character for Trent for the third or fourth time at that point.

keg in kc · 09-12-2006, 03:40 PM

I thought LJ's fumble (he recovered it himself) on 2nd and short early in the game, just before Dante's fumble, was an important play. Drive-killer.

**the Talking Can** · 09-12-2006, 03:44 PM

mostly I agree....4-5 self-inflicted wounds killed us....we had a 2nd and 2 on the first drive, then LJ fumbles..next drive we get to the 11 and then "miscommunicate"...then Parker's penalties both of which came AFTER big gains...even with the shitty OL Trent was piecing it together...

**ExtremeChief** · 09-12-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I thought LJ's fumble (he recovered it himself) on 2nd and short early in the game, just before Dante's fumble, was an important play. Drive-killer.

Yes it was. That made it 3rd and 13 I believe.

The poor drive near the end of the first half, followed by the poor punt that gave Cincy the ball near the KC 45. Hell, you knew they were going to score.

jspchief · 09-12-2006, 03:50 PM

Herm didn't have the team prepared

/idiot

**HemiEd** · 09-12-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I thought LJ's fumble (he recovered it himself) on 2nd and short early in the game, just before Dante's fumble, was an important play. Drive-killer.

Forgot about the LJ fumble, moved us back to 3rd and Long after having a 2nd and short. Do you think he was trying to run before he caught the ball? That is kind of what I saw. We did maintain the momentum after that though, they had to punt.

Maybe the team was just really tight like Stinger makes reference to?

HC_Chief · 09-12-2006, 03:52 PM

Yep.

GAMEPLAN was NOT root failure: EXECUTION was! The coaches cannot control execution. All they can do is substitute personnel.

They did that with Knight... and it was a success!

They did NOT do that with Black.... and it was a miserable failure.

They COULD NOT with Hall and Parker.

I look for Svitek to start against Dungver. Gardner will not be ready in time, so Parker will still be in there. Hall typically has good games against the

, so I look for him to bounce back.

**KcMizzou** · 09-12-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeChief

Yes it was. That made it 3rd and 13 I believe.

The first drive of the game?

As I remember it, it took us from 2nd and 1, to 3rd and 8. Not that it really matters. Keg's point stands.

chop · 09-12-2006, 04:03 PM

Right before the half there were two sacks deep in KC territory. The Chiefs had to punt and Colquitt only got the ball to the 37 yard line. The Bengals scored their second td shortly after.

**HemiEd** · 09-12-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chop

Right before the half there were two sacks deep in KC territory. The Chiefs had to punt and Colquitt only got the ball to the 37 yard line. The Bengals scored their second td shortly after.

Yep Back to Back sacks, with Colquitts worst punt that I remember since he joined the team.

As HC_Chiefs said, the more posts we get here, the more mistakes that come to light. Like many Planeteers, I do not understand the insistence on keeping Black on the field.

FloridaMan88 · 09-12-2006, 04:19 PM

Don't forget blaming Goonther for failing to be prepared to stop Cincy's no-huddle attack

09-12-2006, 03:31 PM
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $2960564	I no longer blame Herm Edwards. Watched the game again last night very closely. I backed it up and watched key plays several times. IMO it came down to four plays that went wrong for us. 1) Dante Hall's fumble, I already knew that, the momentum clearly changed. We were on our way to dominating the Bengals until that happened. 2) Both of Samie Parkers Offensive pass interference calls. They were both killers to drives that were looking very promising. Were they ticky tack? I don't know, someone else on here knows more than I about that. 3) The hit on Trent Green. Trent was trying to carry the team to a comeback. The team was stunned, you could see it. We ended up with no points on that drive, not even a FG. I hope he comes back for many more drives. Herm did not ruin the offense, we had our chances even with Jordan Black's OLE moves at RT. Last edited by HemiEd; 09-12-2006 at 03:46 PM..
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TrickyNicky My Black Friend, Alan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manhattan Casino cash: $10007047	BS. Herm has precognition and knew Trent was going down, but of course, he sat at the foot of King Carl's throne squandering the precious time and money it would take to find a replacement QB.
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09-12-2006, 03:37 PM	#4
Archie F. Swin This is the way Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Casino cash: $9975673	Good call on Samie's flags...also I agree Herm doesn't field punts or stop the run on 3rd and short... last I checked. Blame should be delt like cards this week. __________________ "No Two People Will Do It The Same, You got It Down...When You Appear to Be In Pain!"
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09-12-2006, 03:38 PM	#5
Stinger Bazinga Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $4104507	I would like to add one more trent non pass to LJ and getting sacked on the 8-9 yardline. Scrambled out the pocket had LJ in check down for 3-5 seconds looked him off twice (at least that what it looked like in across the field.) Trent and the offence in general looked flumexed at that point in the first half. Decisions they were making where not typical. I am not sure if they put too much pressure on themselves to preform for the new coach for the fans or what but that was so out of character for Trent for the third or fourth time at that point. __________________
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09-12-2006, 03:40 PM	#6
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I thought LJ's fumble (he recovered it himself) on 2nd and short early in the game, just before Dante's fumble, was an important play. Drive-killer.
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09-12-2006, 03:44 PM	#7
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	mostly I agree....4-5 self-inflicted wounds killed us....we had a 2nd and 2 on the first drive, then LJ fumbles..next drive we get to the 11 and then "miscommunicate"...then Parker's penalties both of which came AFTER big gains...even with the shitty OL Trent was piecing it together... __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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09-12-2006, 03:52 PM	#11
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	Yep. GAMEPLAN was NOT root failure: EXECUTION was! The coaches cannot control execution. All they can do is substitute personnel. They did that with Knight... and it was a success! They did NOT do that with Black.... and it was a miserable failure. They COULD NOT with Hall and Parker. I look for Svitek to start against Dungver. Gardner will not be ready in time, so Parker will still be in there. Hall typically has good games against the , so I look for him to bounce back. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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09-12-2006, 04:03 PM	#13
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $2654270	Right before the half there were two sacks deep in KC territory. The Chiefs had to punt and Colquitt only got the ball to the 37 yard line. The Bengals scored their second td shortly after. __________________ Never be satisfied with what you achieve, because it all pales in comparison with what you are capable of doing in the future.
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09-12-2006, 04:19 PM	#15
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