Royals Speculation about Zack Greinke being traded to the Braves

Sam Hall · 11-26-2008, 06:21 PM

This is from another board. It sounds like Greinke isn't crazy about signing a long-term deal in KC. The four players the Royals would get seem legit. Escobar seems to be the key to the deal. He and Reyes are said to be immediate contributors. Schafer and Flowers aren't far behind.

Royals receive

OF Jordan Schafer or Gorkys Hernandez
SS Yunel Escobar
LHP Jo Jo Reyes or RHP Charlie Morton or LHP Jeff Locke
C Tyler Flowers

Braves receive: Zack Greinke

Deberg_1990 · 11-26-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

This is from another board. It sounds like Greinke isn't crazy about signing a long-term deal in KC.

IM shocked?? Can u blame him?

teedubya · 11-26-2008, 06:26 PM

This would set the Royals back... but, I can see where Greinke wants to play on NL team. He loves to bat... so, AL isn't the ideal place for him.

Id be pissed though

Sam Hall · 11-26-2008, 06:28 PM

When talking about resigning Greinke, Dayton Moore has said both sides have to want to get a deal done. Maybe Greinke wants to cash in on free agency.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-26-2008, 06:29 PM

That is a ****ing haul. I can't imagine Greinke would fetch that much. That's more than Milwaukee gave up for Sabathia or New York for Santana.

Adept Havelock · 11-26-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That is a ****ing haul. I can't imagine Greinke would fetch that much. That's more than Milwaukee gave up for Sabathia or New York for Santana.

If it's true, I would wave goodbye to Zach in a heartbeat.

Strikes me as too good to be true, though.

**DeezNutz** · 11-26-2008, 07:12 PM

Anybody have any thoughts/observations about the proposed players we'd be getting in return? Something beyond what Google would yield?

For this deal to be decent, either the P or the C must be nails, and this is assuming the SS is a stud. Trading a young pitcher of Greinke's skill level is *almost* unimaginable. Throw enough money at the kid, and he'll sign.

DeezNutz are tired of not seeing KC keep its best talent.

EyePod · 11-26-2008, 07:15 PM

Am I missing something? Is Greinke that good?

EyePod · 11-26-2008, 07:18 PM

I'm a Braves fan btw. I really don't think Greinke looks good at all, and I really like Schafer and Escobar. I don't see us trading all of this for Greinke. Sorry.

Sam Hall · 11-26-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Anybody have any thoughts/observations about the proposed players we'd be getting in return? Something beyond what Google would yield?

For this deal to be decent, either the P or the C must be nails, and this is assuming the SS is a stud. Trading a young pitcher of Greinke's skill level is *almost* unimaginable. Throw enough money at the kid, and he'll sign.

DeezNutz are tired of not seeing KC keep its best talent.

Schafer, Escobar and Flowers could all be nails. Escobar seems to have all-star potential and he's the key for the Royals. I don't really know about Reyes.

**DeezNutz** · 11-26-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Am I missing something? Is Greinke that good?

Yes.

Jayson Stark said (couple of weeks ago on 810) that Greinke would bring "the mother load."

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-26-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Anybody have any thoughts/observations about the proposed players we'd be getting in return? Something beyond what Google would yield?

For this deal to be decent, either the P or the C must be nails, and this is assuming the SS is a stud. Trading a young pitcher of Greinke's skill level is *almost* unimaginable. Throw enough money at the kid, and he'll sign.

DeezNutz are tired of not seeing KC keep its best talent.

Dude, this deal is unimaginably good for KC.

Schaefer is the best prospect in their entire system, and Hernandez is right there with him. combine that with Yunel Escobar, and that alone is worth more than Greinke.

Jo-Jo Reyes has good stuff, and he's a lefty. He was one of the Braves best prospects as well.

I just can't imagine that this trade is for real. If so, you should bronze Moore's dick.

Morton is a AAAA guy in my opinion

**DeezNutz** · 11-26-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Schafer, Escobar and Flowers could all be nails. Escobar seems to have all-star potential and he's the key for the Royals. I don't really know about Reyes.

Interesting. You don't trade a very high-quality pitcher for a high-quality OF. Not smart. Like giving up an All-Pro QB for an All-Pro guard. If however, we could get a very good SS and C, tough positions to fill, that would be outstanding.

Big gamble for Dayton...

**DeezNutz** · 11-26-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dude, this deal is unimaginably good for KC.

Schaefer is the best prospect in their entire system, and Hernandez is right there with him. combine that with Yunel Escobar, and that alone is worth more than Greinke.

Jo-Jo Reyes has good stuff, and he's a lefty. He was one of the Braves best prospects as well.

I just can't imagine that this trade is for real. If so, you should bronze Moore's dick.

Morton is a AAAA guy in my opinion

Well, this is a great perspective, no doubt. I was asking because I honestly have zero knowledge about the proposed return. Nada. Zip.

I do know that Greinke can and should develop into a regular All-Star...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-26-2008, 07:24 PM

Jebus, I've never heard of Flowers, but he parked 17 balls in 400 ABs last year (and that's with a really low LD%). Looks like he draws a lot of walks, but Ks a fair amount too.

Did most of this as a C w/ about 1/3 as DH.

11-26-2008, 06:21 PM
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11-26-2008, 06:29 PM	#5
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	That is a ****ing haul. I can't imagine Greinke would fetch that much. That's more than Milwaukee gave up for Sabathia or New York for Santana. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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11-26-2008, 07:15 PM	#8
EyePod Forgetting 2013 season end. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Around Casino cash: $9995735	Am I missing something? Is Greinke that good? __________________ I did not believe in Mahomes until week 1. I've been woke ever since. I'm on board this freight train.
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11-26-2008, 07:18 PM	#9
EyePod Forgetting 2013 season end. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Around Casino cash: $9995735	I'm a Braves fan btw. I really don't think Greinke looks good at all, and I really like Schafer and Escobar. I don't see us trading all of this for Greinke. Sorry. __________________ I did not believe in Mahomes until week 1. I've been woke ever since. I'm on board this freight train.
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11-26-2008, 07:24 PM	#15
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	Jebus, I've never heard of Flowers, but he parked 17 balls in 400 ABs last year (and that's with a really low LD%). Looks like he draws a lot of walks, but Ks a fair amount too. Did most of this as a C w/ about 1/3 as DH. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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