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Old 06-05-2008, 01:57 PM  
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Look at that awesome first-team defensive line!

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As rookies, the Broncos' draft class of 2007 had to wait. As second-year players in 2008, those same players have to wait some more.
In the Broncos' base defense, none of the kids are playing with the first team.

Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder, Marcus Thomas and Steven Harris line up with the second team.

They must stay patient while veterans John Engelberger, Alvin McKinley, Dewayne Robertson and Elvis Dumervil take their reps with the first team.

"We know we're the young guys and we've got to work to improve," said Moss, the Broncos' first-round draft pick in 2007 who is coming back from ankle and leg injuries that forced him to miss the second half of his rookie season. "We know nothing is going to be given to us. They've got there on No. 2 base, but whether we're second string or first string, we've got to work."

It's only June. There's still eight mini-camp sessions, all of training camp and the entire preseason before the final depth chart is set. Besides, Broncos defensive coordinator Bob Slowik says teams defer to veterans this time of year.

"Always," Slowik said. "They always get the first opportunity. But everybody out here also knows that every drill we do; everything that is done out here is evaluated, documented."

But Ryan Clady is a rookie, and he's playing with the first-team offense at left tackle. And to watch him handle his own against veteran starting defensive ends Dumervil and Engelberger is to understand why.

Moss and Crowder each got just one start last year, and that was at Indianapolis when the Broncos tried a gimmick, four-end defensive line against Peyton Manning. Those two will have to outplay a veteran before they get their second start this year.

The pass-rushing Moss does come in at left defensive end, with Dumervil shifting to right end, on the Broncos' No. 1 nickel package.

"I feel more and more comfortable every day," Moss said. "I'm definitely less winded, so I'm going to be there."
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:58 PM   #2
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:59 PM   #3
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There's something seriously wrong with Moss if he can't beat out a complete turd like John Engobeefburger.
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:01 PM   #4
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:02 PM   #5
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And yet they still swept KC.
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:03 PM   #6
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How hard will you be laughing Draven when Denver sweeps KC for the second year in a row?
Probably as hard as I laugh when your team misses the playoffs for the third consecutive year.
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:07 PM   #7
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I'm still kinda pissed off Denver drafted Dumervil. He's a heck of a pass-rushing midget.
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Probably as hard as I laugh when your team misses the playoffs for the third consecutive year.
It's playoff smack you want to run is it? Go back to the little kid's table.
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I'm still kinda pissed off Denver drafted Dumervil. He's a heck of a pass-rushing midget.
Perfect description. The guy is under 6' but has the wingspan of a 6'7" person. Total knuckle dragger.
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Incidentally, I heard them saying on the radio that the Chiefs' 1st team defensive line yesterday was Turk, Boone, Dorsey, and Hali, which hopefully sticks.
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Probably as hard as I laugh when your team misses the playoffs for the third consecutive year.
Ditto

I wouldn't count your chickens before their hatched on that sweep either.
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Incidentally, I heard them saying on the radio that the Chiefs' 1st team defensive line yesterday was Turk, Boone, Dorsey, and Hali, which hopefully sticks.
Nick reported the same thing.
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Incidentally, I heard them saying on the radio that the Chiefs' 1st team defensive line yesterday was Turk, Boone, Dorsey, and Hali, which hopefully sticks.
Yep, that wouldn't be too bad. I don't expect much of a pass rush out of McBride but I really don't think that matters. Last year Green Bay started a 300 pounder at DE, Cullen Jenkins. Their pass rush was still fine though because on passing downs they went with Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila who had 9.5 sacks in a reserve role.
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Nick reported the same thing.
Jesus, I hope you guys are right.

Boone's listed at kcchiefs.com as a DE. And if there's any chance Turk McBride can play adequately with the first team, I will orgasm.
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Nick reported the same thing.
After Gretz did.
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