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Old 04-08-2009, 12:42 PM  
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What will be the problem with the Chiefs Offense this season?

I have been thinking about this a bit, as have all of you, and I am trying to figure out what will most likely sink our Offense next year; yeah, not very optimistic, but what can you expect...

As long as we don't go LT with the #3 (please don't turn this into a thread devoted to why or why not we should) Albert should continue to improve and be a dominate LT for us.

If Waters is over being a baby, he should not fall off much, so no problem here.

Center is a huge question mark right now, hopefully we will this in with a draft pick who can start right away and for 10 more years.

Right guard seems pretty iffy, as does RT... ****.

So far, our OL seems to be the Achilles heel.

Our WR's seem fairly strong with Bowe and Tony G, not to mention that Haley can supposedly get the most out of WR's.

Our running backs, barring any physical beat downs of female bar patrons, seem experienced and capable, though immature they may be.

Our Quarterback situation seems set for a fast start if the O is some what similar to what Cassel is used to (please also do not turn this into a draft QB and trade MC thread).

I guess it is anticlimatic, but the OL seems to be what is going to **** us over this year on the O side of the ball. Really makes me miss those years with Roaf, Shields, and Co. If only we had Pioli then.... my god, we would never have had to suffer through Herm and Dick Curl at the reigns. If only.

So, ignoring the D's needs for a moment, what are the steps needed to bring us back to being a top 10 (hopefully top 5!) offense in the NFL?

Will running a Patriots style O (lots of passing) help take pressure off the OL since they will likely see less pressure from outside blitzers and only have to focus primarily on the DL?
Or will we run a Cardinals style, where they wanted to run more often but couldnt (hopefully we can), but seems they still followed a mantra similar to the Pats, using the pass to set up the run, or the "antihermball" approach to life (aka Arean Ball).

Please, those of you who know, or think you know, more about football's X's and O's give me insight as to how you think the O will be structured, and from that, what the weakest link will ultimately be.

As a side note, it is going to be nice to finally have a coach/GM who will approach a game with the idea of "winning by any means necessary" (cheating jokes asside) and have the mental capability to game plan well. Too many times we watched Herm tirelessly call a run up the ass of the center with 9 in the box rather than throw the football.

Sorry for repost.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:44 PM   #2
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:50 PM   #3
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I think Goff will have RG on lockdown for another year or two. C and RT is our weakness as of now.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:53 PM   #4
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Until they are replaced, RT and possibly C.

I read that Cassel did his best work from shotgun so I'd anticipate lots of passing until we get some horses up front.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:54 PM   #5
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Center, right guard, right tackle, running back and only one legitimate WR on the roster.

I like Bradley's potential and what he's brought to the team when healthy but at this time, it's a little presumptuous to assume that he'll be starting all 16 games. Same for Charles. He was hampered by hamstring injuries and only carried the ball 67 times.

The offense has several holes. Hopefully, most of those will be addressed during the draft (if not all).
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:57 PM   #6
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Until they are replaced, RT and possibly C.

I read that Cassel did his best work from shotgun so I'd anticipate lots of passing until we get some horses up front.
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Haley used a lot of shotgun, Cassel is in the right situation. Gailey can get production out of QB's and the running game, Haley can get production out of QB's and WR's. I think our Oline coach is a big upgrade too.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:58 PM   #7
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Center, right guard, right tackle, running back and only one legitimate WR on the roster.

I like Bradley's potential and what he's brought to the team when healthy but at this time, it's a little presumptuous to assume that he'll be starting all 16 games. Same for Charles. He was hampered by hamstring injuries and only carried the ball 67 times.

The offense has several holes. Hopefully, most of those will be addressed during the draft (if not all).
Bradley is good when healthy, Engram while old is still a great slot receiver who can be a good #2 when need be.
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WR will be a strength after we draft Crabtree
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:59 PM   #9
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I think we'll pick up another lineman in the draft.

And I'm much much more worried about the defense than the offense right now. The offense is going to be far from the deciding factor this year.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:59 PM   #10
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If we took Crabtree and then focused on fixing the rest of our line in the draft I'd say our offense could be considered

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Old 04-08-2009, 01:05 PM   #12
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I think we'll pick up another lineman in the draft.

And I'm much much more worried about the defense than the offense right now. The offense is going to be far from the deciding factor this year.
Thats kind of why I wanted to discuss it. There is a lot of questions to ask for the D side of the ball, some of those will go away after the draft most likely, but for now there is just too much change that is going to take place for me to start wanting to talk about it.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:06 PM   #13
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I think we'll pick up another lineman in the draft.
Yes. This is a question to ask after the draft. We don't even know who's even going to be on the team yet.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:13 PM   #14
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While I'm still for picking a DE/OLB prospect with our top pick, I would rather have Maclin instead of Crabtree if we go WR. Homer accusations aside, Maclin has the speed and deep threat abilities that we lack; while Crabtree IMO is much like D-Bowe as a possesion WR. Maclin also adds to his value as a legitmate threat in the PR/KR department. With Bowe, Maclin, Engram, and Tony G we'd have one of the best receiver corps in the league. JMO though..
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If we can average 20.3 pts a game with Thigpen (avg scoring ouput over the course of his 10 starts), we can do at least that well with Cassel, if not better.

I, for one, think Goff will be a big upgrade at RG. He'll be above average. I think Pioli will find a RT...it's honestly not that hard for a GOOD personnel man.
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