Misc Bill approved in Missouri senate for no nudity in strip clubs, close at midnight.

**BigRedChief** · 02-05-2010, 06:54 AM

Strip club bill advances in Missouri

By JASON NOBLE and STEVE KRASKE
The Kansas City Star
JEFFERSON CITY | Legislation placing far-reaching restrictions on adult-entertainment businesses in Missouri won preliminary approval in the state Senate on Thursday and may continue on a legislative fast track thanks to a federal investigation.

Sen. Matt Bartle presented the bill on the Senate floor just two days after he appeared before a federal grand jury in Kansas City to answer questions about the defeat of a nearly identical bill in 2005.

To become law, legislation approved Thursday must be voted on once more in the Senate, passed through the House and ultimately signed by the governor. But if successful, it would represent a sea change for adult-oriented businesses.

Among the provisions:
•Nudity would be banned in strip clubs.
•Semi-nude dancers would have to stay at least six feet away from and not touch patrons.
•Adult businesses would have to close between midnight and 6 a.m. and could not sell alcohol.
•Adult businesses could not be opened within 1,000 feet of a school, church, day-care facility, library, park, residence or another adult business.

If upheld in court, the law probably would shut down strip clubs and adult bookstores, said attorney Dick Bryant, who represents about a dozen adult entertainment businesses in the Kansas City area.

“But I have every confidence that the courts will find the same problems that existed last time around,” he said. “Once again, the First Amendment will protect what it’s designed to protect.”

Bryant said that if passed into law, the legislation could wind up costing the state millions in lost tax revenue and in compensation payments for forcing the businesses to close.

“I guess if taxpayers truly want to spend $1 million a pop for getting rid of stores, more power to them,” he said.

The proximity of Bartle’s grand jury testimony to the Senate debate was a coincidence, the Lee’s Summit Republican insisted, although he acknowledged that it might be a beneficial one for his bill.
“I’m not going to deny that the environment right now is opportune for placing this legislation before the legislature,” he said. “But it was not coordinated.”

Bartle initially filed the bill in December and it was passed out of committee early last week, before his appearance Tuesday before the grand jury was publicized.

Coincidental or not, Capitol observers said that the ongoing investigation will make passage more likely of what is already a politically perilous bill to oppose during an election year.

“Because of the grand jury investigation, I hope Senator Bartle’s bill will have a much easier time this session,” said House Speaker Pro Tem Bryan Pratt, a Blue Springs Republican. “And it’s my sense that it will.”
The lone dissenter in the Senate was Kansas City Democrat Jolie Justus, who first attempted to exempt Kansas City from the legislation’s restrictions, then voiced the only audible vote against it.

Justus cited Kansas City’s local ordinances regulating adult businesses and invoked the right of cities and counties to manage their own affairs as reasons for the exemption.

“(Cities) have shown it is possible to self-regulate on these issues,” she said.
Justus also echoed Bryant’s concern that the new regulations could force strip clubs and other adult businesses to close, which would have economic ramifications for the city and statewide.

Adult businesses in Missouri employ 3,000 people, she pointed out, and many of those could be forced out of their jobs by Bartle’s bill.
“This is not the time to cut jobs,” Justus argued.

But she was challenged by Sen. Charlie Shields, a St. Joseph Republican whose district includes part of Kansas City’s Northland, and by Bartle, who wondered if exempting Kansas City from the law would attract such businesses to the city.

“This will make Kansas City the porn capital of Missouri,” Bartle said.
Justus’ amendment was defeated.

Seeking to allay constitutional fears that typically arise in debates over regulating adult businesses, Bartle stressed that all the measures had been passed— and upheld — elsewhere.

“I know that the members of this body are not interested in passing another bill that doesn’t have a reasonable chance of withstanding the scrutiny of the courts,” he said. “I think this will withstand constitutional scrutiny.”

As for what happened with his 2005 bill, Bartle said federal authorities are interested in how the legislation died in the House after being sent to an unfriendly committee.

Four days before the bill was assigned to that committee, strip club owners gave $35,000 to a fundraising group with ties to a top adviser to former House speaker Rod Jetton.

Bartle said he thought that donation was directly related to the undermining of his legislation.

Jetton has denied any wrongdoing in connection with the handling of the bill.

The grand jury, which has not issued any indictments, is expected to reconvene on March 9.

http://www.kansascity.com/637/story/1728382.html

**Bane** · 02-05-2010, 06:58 AM

I haven't been to a strip bar in years anyway.

**BigRedChief** · 02-05-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

I haven't been to a strip bar in years anyway.

me either.

wilas101 · 02-05-2010, 07:01 AM

me either but that doesn't mean some ass in jeff city should fix it so i can't have the option.

**Bane** · 02-05-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wilas101

me either but that doesn't mean some ass in jeff city should fix it so i can't have the option.

I agree.Guess that will step the market up for the private dancers.

wilas101 · 02-05-2010, 07:07 AM

I've heard the strip joints in Iowa are better anyway.

maybe someone can shed some light on that.

**BigRedChief** · 02-05-2010, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilas101

me either but that doesn't mean some ass in jeff city should fix it so i can't have the option.

Legislating morality never works.

philfree · 02-05-2010, 07:11 AM

What are the laws in Kansas and Illinois? This would probably just push a bunch of revenue across the state lines. Besides Strippers are people too!

PhilFree

ChiefsCountry · 02-05-2010, 07:12 AM

As long as they dont take away lap dances.
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BigRock · 02-05-2010, 07:12 AM

Show Me State MY ASS

**Bane** · 02-05-2010, 07:13 AM

I grew up in southern IL,around Carbondale.There were 2 clubs close to SIU that we all went to.The Gallery had better looking girls,but they kept a thong on,and JB's which they got birthday suit naked in.We'd g into JB's on the weekends and they'd have 20-30 different girls dancing,most of which went to SIU,and most of them were very good looking.You'd always have a few that weren't so hot,but after a few drinks they'd look better for some reason.Anyway they had cheap drinks,and nice girls and we always had a blast there.Guess thats been 10 years or so ago...Ahhhhh,the good ole days.....

philfree · 02-05-2010, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock

Show Me State my ass.

LOL I'd rather it be the Show Me Your T&A State.

PhilFree

**BigRedChief** · 02-05-2010, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

As long as they dont take away lap dances.
Posted via Mobile Device

•Semi-nude dancers would have to stay at least six feet away from and not touch patrons.

**Bane** · 02-05-2010, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

•Semi-nude dancers would have to stay at least six feet away from and not touch patrons.

A good lap dance can sure clear you mind too...

Well it's been so long for me now though,maybe I should hit the club before they fugg it up....

Inspector · 02-05-2010, 07:28 AM

Oh well, no reason to bother getting those glasses I guess.

02-05-2010, 06:54 AM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $2699627 VARSITY	Bill approved in Missouri senate for no nudity in strip clubs, close at midnight. Strip club bill advances in Missouri By JASON NOBLE and STEVE KRASKE The Kansas City Star JEFFERSON CITY \| Legislation placing far-reaching restrictions on adult-entertainment businesses in Missouri won preliminary approval in the state Senate on Thursday and may continue on a legislative fast track thanks to a federal investigation. Sen. Matt Bartle presented the bill on the Senate floor just two days after he appeared before a federal grand jury in Kansas City to answer questions about the defeat of a nearly identical bill in 2005. To become law, legislation approved Thursday must be voted on once more in the Senate, passed through the House and ultimately signed by the governor. But if successful, it would represent a sea change for adult-oriented businesses. Among the provisions: •Nudity would be banned in strip clubs. •Semi-nude dancers would have to stay at least six feet away from and not touch patrons. •Adult businesses would have to close between midnight and 6 a.m. and could not sell alcohol. •Adult businesses could not be opened within 1,000 feet of a school, church, day-care facility, library, park, residence or another adult business. If upheld in court, the law probably would shut down strip clubs and adult bookstores, said attorney Dick Bryant, who represents about a dozen adult entertainment businesses in the Kansas City area. “But I have every confidence that the courts will find the same problems that existed last time around,” he said. “Once again, the First Amendment will protect what it’s designed to protect.” Bryant said that if passed into law, the legislation could wind up costing the state millions in lost tax revenue and in compensation payments for forcing the businesses to close. “I guess if taxpayers truly want to spend $1 million a pop for getting rid of stores, more power to them,” he said. The proximity of Bartle’s grand jury testimony to the Senate debate was a coincidence, the Lee’s Summit Republican insisted, although he acknowledged that it might be a beneficial one for his bill. “I’m not going to deny that the environment right now is opportune for placing this legislation before the legislature,” he said. “But it was not coordinated.” Bartle initially filed the bill in December and it was passed out of committee early last week, before his appearance Tuesday before the grand jury was publicized. Coincidental or not, Capitol observers said that the ongoing investigation will make passage more likely of what is already a politically perilous bill to oppose during an election year. “Because of the grand jury investigation, I hope Senator Bartle’s bill will have a much easier time this session,” said House Speaker Pro Tem Bryan Pratt, a Blue Springs Republican. “And it’s my sense that it will.” The lone dissenter in the Senate was Kansas City Democrat Jolie Justus, who first attempted to exempt Kansas City from the legislation’s restrictions, then voiced the only audible vote against it. Justus cited Kansas City’s local ordinances regulating adult businesses and invoked the right of cities and counties to manage their own affairs as reasons for the exemption. “(Cities) have shown it is possible to self-regulate on these issues,” she said. Justus also echoed Bryant’s concern that the new regulations could force strip clubs and other adult businesses to close, which would have economic ramifications for the city and statewide. Adult businesses in Missouri employ 3,000 people, she pointed out, and many of those could be forced out of their jobs by Bartle’s bill. “This is not the time to cut jobs,” Justus argued. But she was challenged by Sen. Charlie Shields, a St. Joseph Republican whose district includes part of Kansas City’s Northland, and by Bartle, who wondered if exempting Kansas City from the law would attract such businesses to the city. “This will make Kansas City the porn capital of Missouri,” Bartle said. Justus’ amendment was defeated. Seeking to allay constitutional fears that typically arise in debates over regulating adult businesses, Bartle stressed that all the measures had been passed— and upheld — elsewhere. “I know that the members of this body are not interested in passing another bill that doesn’t have a reasonable chance of withstanding the scrutiny of the courts,” he said. “I think this will withstand constitutional scrutiny.” As for what happened with his 2005 bill, Bartle said federal authorities are interested in how the legislation died in the House after being sent to an unfriendly committee. Four days before the bill was assigned to that committee, strip club owners gave $35,000 to a fundraising group with ties to a top adviser to former House speaker Rod Jetton. Bartle said he thought that donation was directly related to the undermining of his legislation. Jetton has denied any wrongdoing in connection with the handling of the bill. The grand jury, which has not issued any indictments, is expected to reconvene on March 9. http://www.kansascity.com/637/story/1728382.html
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Bane C.H.I.E.F.S Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: **** your face Casino cash: $10005055	I grew up in southern IL,around Carbondale.There were 2 clubs close to SIU that we all went to.The Gallery had better looking girls,but they kept a thong on,and JB's which they got birthday suit naked in.We'd g into JB's on the weekends and they'd have 20-30 different girls dancing,most of which went to SIU,and most of them were very good looking.You'd always have a few that weren't so hot,but after a few drinks they'd look better for some reason.Anyway they had cheap drinks,and nice girls and we always had a blast there.Guess thats been 10 years or so ago...Ahhhhh,the good ole days.....
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