Chiefs Let's face facts: we're going to have to bonus-up on Matt Cassel.

Direckshun · 11-11-2010, 07:41 PM

There's been a few conversations this season that keep asking the question "if we don't drop Cassel to get out of the bonus he's due..."

I mean, just stop. Cassel will survive the offseason and will likely be our starter next year.

Even if Pioli and Haley understood what we all know to be true, which is that Cassel is not that answer and is not a franchise QB, than acquiring one is damn near impossible.

Who would be available this offseason? A few stopgaps, none of them franchise guys. (A thread will no doubt be started about McNabb, but he's not a Pioli guy.) And we'll be too busy looking for a backup QB anyway when we let Croyle go -- and we don't even have a third stringer to fall back on.

The #1 opportunity we have at a franchise QB is to reach for a second-round quality guy with high character with our mid-to-late pick in the first round to ensure we don't get leapfrogged.

Christian Ponder (Florida State)
Nick Foles (Arizona)
Nathan Enderle (Idaho)

Somebody like that is the only chance this team has at a young, franchise guy, and that is the only way we are acquiring him.

And there's the catch -- even if we acquire a guy like that, we still need Cassel because rookie QBs almost never start from the first game. Cassel can be a valuable backup, and a stopgap while the rookie takes his time to get the system down. Cassel, in the mean time, will never be a drag in the locker room, so Haley and Pioli will hang on to him for the versatility he provides to their QB decisions.

Even if the stud does start right away, and Cassel really does get the shaft from Day One of the 2011 season, he is a guy who will always do what he's asked and will do it the best he can, which the staff obviously values above all else. And as fans, we should value that as well.

Like or dislike Cassel, he's got an arrowhead on the side of his helmet for a few more years. In what capacity, we don't know.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-11-2010, 07:44 PM

If they are paying him the bonus, that effectively means he's this team's quarterback until 2014. That's 4 more years of Cassel.

I just threw up in my mouth.

That would also mean they aren't drafting a QB in the 2nd round.

Direckshun · 11-11-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

If they are paying him the bonus, that effectively means he's this team's quarterback until 2014. That's 4 more years of Cassel.

I just threw up in my mouth.

That would also mean they aren't drafting a QB in the 2nd round.

If they aren't paying him his bonus, we've got no QB.

And we're dealing with rookies (the bad kinds) and stopgaps (the worst kinds) for the next 4 years.

Cassel at least gives us versatility when we make our decisions at QB for the future. He allows us to take risks and gambles in our search for a true franchise QB.

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-11-2010, 07:58 PM

People that do not see this are just lying to themselves.

this is only his 3rd full season, he will be around a while...

chiefzilla1501 · 11-11-2010, 08:01 PM

I guarantee he doesn't get that bonus. What worries me is that they restructure. I don't really care--as long as we draft a QBOTF in round 1. All that matters to me.

As for stopgaps, a few that come to mind: Donovan McNabb, Shaun Hill, Kyle Orton. I am still on the bandwagon to trade for Kevin Kolb--I feel like we can get him for a 2nd. I think Kolb would be awesome in this offense.

**tyler360** · 11-11-2010, 08:02 PM

I just hope that they bring in the future qb sometime soon. My fear is that they wait because they think cassel can be that guy.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-11-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

If they aren't paying him his bonus, we've got no QB.

And we're dealing with rookies (the bad kinds) and stopgaps (the worst kinds) for the next 4 years.

Cassel at least gives us versatility when we make our decisions at QB for the future. He allows us to take risks and gambles in our search for a true franchise QB.

Paying a 10 million dollar bonus for versitility?

I do agree with you that he's going to be here, but that doesn't mean I'm thrilled about it.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-11-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler360

I just hope that they bring in the future qb sometime soon. My fear is that they wait because they think cassel can be that guy.

I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that Charlie Weis will be yelling to make sure this doesn't happen.

**DaFace** · 11-11-2010, 08:07 PM

Sadly, you're right. I'm gonna go sulk in the corner now.

Direckshun · 11-11-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I guarantee he doesn't get that bonus. What worries me is that they restructure. I don't really care--as long as we draft a QBOTF in round 1. All that matters to me.

If they restructure, that's the best possible deal for this franchise.

That gives you a reliable guy that CAN START for you if we need him to, while allowing us to drop money on the next QBotF.

Direckshun · 11-11-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Paying a 10 million dollar bonus for versitility?

I do agree with you that he's going to be here, but that doesn't mean I'm thrilled about it.

Cassel has a role on this team as a backup.

In any Super Bowl season, you're going to need a guy like him who's a good presense in the locker room and will give you a couple solid starts when your guy gets hurt.

This team could really use Cassel in some capacity. Which is why they're not going to lose him.

Coogs · 11-11-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't really care--as long as we draft a QBOTF in round 1. All that matters to me.

Something tells me you need to prepare yourself to be disappointed in late April.

**Bane** · 11-11-2010, 08:12 PM

As stated before...Cassel isn't going anywhere /Pioli
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Direckshun · 11-11-2010, 08:12 PM

In order to draft a QBOTF in the first round, we're going to have to reach for a Round 2 guy with a great attitude.

And there's a few guys that fit that description, but it is what it is.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-11-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

In order to draft a QBOTF in the first round, we're going to have to reach for a Round 2 guy with a great attitude.

And there's a few guys that fit that description, but it is what it is.

I don't think anyone would call either McCluster or Arenas reaches at this juncture. As long as McCluster stays healthy, that is.

11-11-2010, 07:41 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4183447	Let's face facts: we're going to have to bonus-up on Matt Cassel. There's been a few conversations this season that keep asking the question "if we don't drop Cassel to get out of the bonus he's due..." I mean, just stop. Cassel will survive the offseason and will likely be our starter next year. Even if Pioli and Haley understood what we all know to be true, which is that Cassel is not that answer and is not a franchise QB, than acquiring one is damn near impossible. Who would be available this offseason? A few stopgaps, none of them franchise guys. (A thread will no doubt be started about McNabb, but he's not a Pioli guy.) And we'll be too busy looking for a backup QB anyway when we let Croyle go -- and we don't even have a third stringer to fall back on. The #1 opportunity we have at a franchise QB is to reach for a second-round quality guy with high character with our mid-to-late pick in the first round to ensure we don't get leapfrogged. Christian Ponder (Florida State) Nick Foles (Arizona) Nathan Enderle (Idaho) Somebody like that is the only chance this team has at a young, franchise guy, and that is the only way we are acquiring him. And there's the catch -- even if we acquire a guy like that, we still need Cassel because rookie QBs almost never start from the first game. Cassel can be a valuable backup, and a stopgap while the rookie takes his time to get the system down. Cassel, in the mean time, will never be a drag in the locker room, so Haley and Pioli will hang on to him for the versatility he provides to their QB decisions. Even if the stud does start right away, and Cassel really does get the shaft from Day One of the 2011 season, he is a guy who will always do what he's asked and will do it the best he can, which the staff obviously values above all else. And as fans, we should value that as well. Like or dislike Cassel, he's got an arrowhead on the side of his helmet for a few more years. In what capacity, we don't know.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1834497	I guarantee he doesn't get that bonus. What worries me is that they restructure. I don't really care--as long as we draft a QBOTF in round 1. All that matters to me. As for stopgaps, a few that come to mind: Donovan McNabb, Shaun Hill, Kyle Orton. I am still on the bandwagon to trade for Kevin Kolb--I feel like we can get him for a 2nd. I think Kolb would be awesome in this offense.
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